What are you listening to punk?

Anteater · 08-03-2020, 09:24 PM

What's kind of funny is that some guys who loved groups like Wire and Suicide and PIL and also Pink Floyd and Genesis basically birthed neo-prog around the same time New Wave was getting big.

The Batlord · 08-03-2020, 09:25 PM

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Well, Rush's 2112 also broke 500k plus sales well into 1977, which was supposedly when punk was on the rise. So I think progressive rock must have been perceived as doing pretty good between all the big names over that ten year period, otherwise there wouldn't have been such a backlash.

Did you just list three albums over the course of a decade that didn't go platinum as proof of prog's commercial success?

Anteater · 08-03-2020, 09:29 PM

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Did you just list three albums over the course of a decade that didn't go platinum as proof of prog's commercial success?

You are the one who said "unless prog had a bunch of high selling albums then prog failed commercially." Why are you making an album going Platinum your bare minimum requirement? If that's what you are going for, Michael Jackson's Thriller is the only album worth mentioning from the last forty years because it outsold everything else by a wide margin. Everyone is basically a commercial failure compared to that.

OccultHawk · 08-03-2020, 09:30 PM

2112 is triple platinum

Anteater · 08-03-2020, 09:42 PM

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Rush is unlistenable but that's actually not an indictment of prog in general from me

You might be surprised how much you'd like some neo-prog. here and there or maybe Van Der Graaf Generator.

**Frownland** · 08-03-2020, 10:10 PM

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punk pumped up the idea in the popular sphere that there could be such a thing as the non-mainstream

that you could be in pop music and be broke and/or a ****ing weirdo

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Lol. The classic prog-rock bands had already proven that experimental, even alien sounding music could sell and build audiences independent of whatever pop flavor of the month was charting.

As a big fan of both genres who respects their philosophies and cultural influences, you're both wrong and you should feel bad about that.

OccultHawk · 08-03-2020, 10:23 PM

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I think we already had this decision about "talent" and you seem to think that it's impossible for untalented musicians to make good music

even The Shaggs are "talented'

You could practice for a 1000 years and never have Steve Jones’ chops.

Anteater · 08-03-2020, 10:26 PM

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As a big fan of both genres who respects their philosophies and cultural influences, you're both wrong and you should feel bad about that.

Wrong + Wrong = Right

**Frownland** · 08-03-2020, 10:34 PM

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I know your take on it and think you're pretty wrong honestly

Care to explain my take on what the first mainstream underground movement was?

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You could practice for a 1000 years and never have Steve Jones’ chops.

Hygiene and trim style are important, but the best mutton chops are genetic.

SGR · 08-04-2020, 06:37 AM

All the cool kids in my school listened to Gentle Giant.

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