Is Progressive Punk really an oxymoron?

OccultHawk · 08-04-2016, 06:45 AM

Bob you can do your thing but you don't have to go bonkers just because someone else is doing theirs.

**Frownland** · 08-04-2016, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Yeah, why exactly would you need a fanzine when you can just start a blog? And ever since Myspace, self-promotion has been easier than ever. Only point to hanging on to the old school DIY practices sounds like elitism and not liking change.

I thought that elitism was one of the cornerstones of punk?

Blank. · 08-04-2016, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Yeah, why exactly would you need a fanzine when you can just start a blog? And ever since Myspace, self-promotion has been easier than ever. Only point to hanging on to the old school DIY practices sounds like elitism and not liking change.

I don't know about that. When I go to shows, there's always a guy handing out paper to promote a show. And I've gone to a few shows just because of that. I think sometimes the old fashioned way works just as well.

The Batlord · 08-04-2016, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

Punk was an Art and Culture movement

it also works as a way to describe music that's untechnical, lofi, and/or challenging to the status quo

That's why you can say something like "wow this rapper is really Punk" and you are not referring to power chords

But nobody says that because they actually think the rapper IS punk in any real way, it's just a casual way to say they have some sort of rebellious attitude. And it's usually a pretty shallow and vapid comparison anyway, since the vast majority of people think punk is all power chords and shouting about the government.

The Batlord · 08-04-2016, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

Yes and the vast majority of people have never actually heard any punk beyond that one time they heard Blitzkreig Bop on the radio

Which is why your point is irrelevant.

Blank. · 08-04-2016, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

Yes and the vast majority of people have never actually heard any punk beyond that one time they heard Blitzkreig Bop on the radio

Yes, but defining a genre is largely dependent upon what the majority thinks.

**Frownland** · 08-04-2016, 04:23 PM

You guys put your faith in the majority over those actually involved in the scene? The public is an idiot, I wouldn't trust them with anything.

OccultHawk · 08-04-2016, 04:24 PM

I don't think I've heard the Ramones on the radio. Commercials and baseball games, yeah.

**Frownland** · 08-04-2016, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

I don't think I've heard the Ramones on the radio. Commercials and baseball games, yeah.

I've heard them quite a few times on the radio and I don't even listen to the radio.

Dylstew · 08-04-2016, 05:01 PM

There's a million punk rock bands that sound the same, to say it has no sound baffles me.

"You know, I've seen the same bands so many dozens of times,
but with dozens of different names
across dozens of different state lines.
And I won't always admit it, but I think
that the world's better off with the world better in it.
And so if we're picking sides,
I guess that I am for every ****ty three-chord high school punk band.
Oh yes I am, oh yes I am." - Pat the Bunny

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Dylstew Music Addict Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 1,366	There's a million punk rock bands that sound the same, to say it has no sound baffles me. "You know, I've seen the same bands so many dozens of times, but with dozens of different names across dozens of different state lines. And I won't always admit it, but I think that the world's better off with the world better in it. And so if we're picking sides, I guess that I am for every ****ty three-chord high school punk band. Oh yes I am, oh yes I am." - Pat the Bunny