Is Green Day punk or nah?
 

I think they have a couple of punk rock songs but they're an alternative band overall. What do you think?

They went from being a decent cool band on Lookout! Records to being the weakest band in the history of rock'n'roll. I mean like Billy Joel would have been embarrassed to do that Broadway ****. I lack the vocabulary to express how sad and pathetic that was. New Direction or One Direction or whatever they're called look at that and call it weak. Goerge Bush watching Guiding Light level lame. Not so lame it's cool. Just the lowest ****ing fungus ever.

A least they're not Blink 182.

God. I like a lot of those pop punk bands, but Blink 182 is worse then sex with a cactus.

They were never punk.

nah

I don't know about that. Songs like Jaded were pretty punk.

Your mom is pretty punk.

If you know about their origins at Gilman and Lookout! They we punk. They ended up much worse than Blink 182.

She is a saint!

I'd say they were punk til they started working on an album.

Admittedly... I'm actually a fan of Blink and hate Green Day. Blink are basically a watered down NoFX.

I do like a bit of Green Day's 90's stuff I enjoy though.

Green Day is to Punk as Kool Aid is to 100% fruit juice.

I'm not from the south. What does that mean?

Sure they're punk. They're just shiitty punk.

They have punk songs though. Listen to jaded. Whether you like them or hate them, they have a few punk rock songs.

Yeah, shiitty punk.

American Idiot, admittedly, is exceptional.

Listening to Dookie. Yeah.

Who is this we? I don't know you.

Well if I'm included in that then the joke is on you because I never have a clue what I'm talking about.

Ironically you don't seem to know what you're talking about.

It means your either from the great plains, the Rockies, the west coast, or perhaps New England.

Wrong.

OK if you're not from the South or anywheres I'd mentioned, then where are you from?

The midwest.

That's the same as the Great Plains.

Not really. It leaves out Iowa and a few other midwest states.

Oh ****

I'm only supposed to talk about music until I take myself off punishment

My bad

They were never fit to lick out the Buzzcocks asscracks

But I can lick the asscracks of the buzzcocks?

Sorry but songs like this say you're wrong. This isn't the most punk track ever, but to say it's not punk is ludicrous. In my opinion this proves Occukthawk right.

I made this point earlier but coming to age at Gilman wasn't just punk it was the definitive punk at the time. MRR and all that. Any other claims are false revisionism.

The releases by green day on lookout! was 90's punk. It's the material after that when they move away from punk.

To be fair, Green Day have always done a disservice to the music industry, whether it was toward punk or not.

Anyone who isn't a genre-definition purist probably would agree that "Basket Case" and "Longview" are indeed legitimate "punk" songs in both sound and attitude. In fact, IMO there probably isn't much else recorded after 1987 or so that would qualify...

Yeah, but most songs after Dookie I think move into alternative territory.

I would respect that date more if you went ahead and said '76.

Nickelback isn't rock either because I like rock so they are not rock.

I'm going to assume frownland is making a point. And I agree with him completely. You can't not call it something just cause you don't like it.

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