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Old 07-16-2018, 12:26 PM   #461 (permalink)
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Which is lame considering venues like Gilman used to book bands Green Day, AFI, etc. specifically because they drew a large enough crowd to pay the bills.

Basically, you make money for them and it's all good. You make money for yourself and you get on the banned list.
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Old 07-17-2018, 07:24 PM   #462 (permalink)
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Which is lame considering venues like Gilman used to book bands Green Day, AFI, etc. specifically because they drew a large enough crowd to pay the bills.

Basically, you make money for them and it's all good. You make money for yourself and you get on the banned list.
Right. You stay with the person who brought you to the dance, or you go home.
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Old 07-17-2018, 07:49 PM   #463 (permalink)
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I think Green Day "sold out" with Dookie and they were a better band for it

it's just if you liked their mediocre punk, you might be upset when what they play isn't really punk anymore

OG fans lose interest when groups change their sound for a mainstream audience and they have a right to that
Sure they technically sold out but how many people even know of their first two albums. Dookie was their first major label release so...
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Old 07-17-2018, 07:53 PM   #464 (permalink)
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Well...actually idk tbh. I had one.
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I remember my point. Dookie seems to be considered the start of Green Day. I rarely ever hear anybody talk about their previous albums but I could be wrong. I guess you could consider that selling out but Dookie was still their first official major lable release. I wouldn't call that selling out, just grasping an opportunity. Hell. Dookie is better than anything that did afterwards anyway. So they may as well have started there.

Idc tho. Green day is the best band ever so yeah.
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IDK personally I think they came staggering back with 21st Century Breakdown.
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Old 08-20-2018, 01:03 PM   #467 (permalink)
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Green Day isn't Punk Rock. They are pop rock IMO. Simply trying to look punk and trying your hardest to sound edgy, makes you not punk.

I'm not saying I absolutely hate them. Some of their tunes were catchy, they had some good licks but to me it was just pop rock. From day 1 it was targeted for main stream consumption, had a slight edge, but still very safe.

Lastly they whined and complained about what critics and fans said all the time. Punk is an attitude not just a genre - Axl Rose was punk rock. Liam Gallagher was punk rock - regardless of what you'd call their music styles.
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Guns N Roses basically brought back Led Zeppelin with added knuckle dragging.
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No wonder Chula loves them and says the same tired **** about Marshall stacks and Les Paul guitars whenever he gets the chance.
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Green Day isn't Punk Rock. They are pop rock IMO. Simply trying to look punk and trying your hardest to sound edgy, makes you not punk.

I'm not saying I absolutely hate them. Some of their tunes were catchy, they had some good licks but to me it was just pop rock. From day 1 it was targeted for main stream consumption, had a slight edge, but still very safe.

Lastly they whined and complained about what critics and fans said all the time. Punk is an attitude not just a genre - Axl Rose was punk rock. Liam Gallagher was punk rock - regardless of what you'd call their music styles.
If you said Axl Rose and Liam Gallagher were "punks" I would agree with you. But they are not "Punk Rock." Plain and simple: they are not a music genre.
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