Is Green Day punk or nah?

The Batlord · 09-11-2018, 10:28 AM

Guns N Roses are ass basically.

**Frownland** · 09-11-2018, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Rocco_81

Damn you are going to say that Axl Rose's music is some of the worst??? Compared to who exactly?

Compared to artists worth a damn, I'd reckon.

The Batlord · 09-11-2018, 10:43 AM

The cover of "Knockin' on Heaven's Door" is one of the quickest ways to get me to chuck the radio out of a window this side of 3 Days Grace.

The Batlord · 09-11-2018, 01:31 PM

Hillary Clinton > Axl Rose

**Frownland** · 09-11-2018, 01:50 PM

I usually don't go for the lesser of two evils thing, but that one really forces your hand.

windsock · 09-11-2018, 03:02 PM

Green Day are punk, but in a different way. Punk is a spectrum just like most other genres.

If you're looking for good 90's punk, Bad Religion was still going strong around when Green Day appeared. If you're talking bands unique to the 90's though, I've never had a problem with The Offspring.

The Batlord · 09-11-2018, 03:04 PM

The Offspring can certainly be fun.

~~MicShazam~~ · 09-11-2018, 03:05 PM

Commercial punk is punk. Otherwise, not a lot of punk exists. Most bands that pretend to have an ethos are just wannabes. Just look at black metal. There's maybe a few people crazy enough to be true BM, the rest are just wearing a silly costume to be cool (roflmao. clowns with panda makeup).

~~MicShazam~~ · 09-11-2018, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

idk most of everything sucks

but genre defining punk bands did indeed live up to the ethos

I don't equate not living up to the original punk ethos with sucking though. You can make good music even if you don't really live and breathe the whole counter establishment thing. Most genres don't even have an ethos that goes before the music.

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Originally Posted by elphenor

it's literally the difference between punk and "pop punk"

oh, you added a bit. I don't know. To me, "pop punk" is more of a stylistic thing. Cleaner production, poppier hooks and less edge.
Although it probably always/mostly goes hand in hand with a not very punk "attitude".

The Batlord · 09-11-2018, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam

Commercial punk is punk. Otherwise, not a lot of punk exists. Most bands that pretend to have an ethos are just wannabes. Just look at black metal. There's maybe a few people crazy enough to be true BM, the rest are just wearing a silly costume to be cool (roflmao. clowns with panda makeup).

Nah Offspring after an album were just a pop band with kinda sorta punk aesthetics that were so watered down that to call them punk would be calling Load and Reload metal. It was still fun but definitely not punk. I'd still take Conspiracy of One over plenty of punk though cause it was a brilliant pop record.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsFv...4bvd7zuc4T4hKV

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~~MicShazam~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Aalborg Posts: 7,634	Commercial punk is punk. Otherwise, not a lot of punk exists. Most bands that pretend to have an ethos are just wannabes. Just look at black metal. There's maybe a few people crazy enough to be true BM, the rest are just wearing a silly costume to be cool (roflmao. clowns with panda makeup).