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Old 08-29-2017, 05:20 PM   #371 (permalink)
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Yeah but "pop punk" is real dumb terminology and insofar as it's a genre I wouldn't consider it a subgenre of punk rather a subgenre of pop if not just outright pop music in the Britney Spears type sense

"I wanna be your boyfriend" by Ramones is already a pop song in structure the reason it's punk is the tin can equipment bare production and off kilter vocals
I think pop-punk refers to a very specific milieu. Ramones and The Clash had melodic songs, but they still had a dirty production and unclean vocals. Pop-punk is structurally punk rock but with a super clean production and "conventionally good" pop singers. Basically just punk packaged as a corporate product. Whether you want to consider it primarily a subset of punk or pop is up to you.
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Old 09-05-2017, 09:20 AM   #372 (permalink)
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Old 09-05-2017, 09:24 AM   #373 (permalink)
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Green Day are pop. The term pop punk is just a contradiction.
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Old 10-03-2017, 01:34 PM   #374 (permalink)
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90s Green Day - yes
00s Green Day - somewhat
10s Green Day - definitely no.
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Old 10-06-2017, 06:37 AM   #375 (permalink)
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Earlier stuff were definitely punk.
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Old 10-06-2017, 05:53 PM   #376 (permalink)
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But you admit it was still punk?
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Old 10-06-2017, 06:47 PM   #377 (permalink)
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Earlier stuff were definitely punk.


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it was definitely still microwaved diarrhea

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I didn't say that

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Old 10-06-2017, 07:09 PM   #378 (permalink)
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I didn't say that
The use of the word "still" certainly implies that you did.
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Old 10-07-2017, 08:32 PM   #379 (permalink)
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it was definitely still microwaved diarrhea
This made me chuckle in agreement, though, I do like a song or two from them. Overall, though, yes, microwaved diarrhea.
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Old 10-17-2017, 09:49 AM   #380 (permalink)
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Babs Uvala Who is a great punk song. They surely came out of a punk scene with punk ethos, they toured relentlessly and came from the bottom. They made it big. They're records are heavily produced. Depends on your definition. Personally I don't see punk as a genre as much as a mindset. It's not punk to conform which I don't think Green Day ever did or tried to do.
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