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Old 07-16-2017, 09:58 AM   #371 (permalink)
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Old 08-13-2017, 03:05 PM   #372 (permalink)
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Old 08-28-2017, 12:29 PM   #373 (permalink)
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The pre-Dookie stuff certainly is, and the later stuff only is in the abstract sense. It's "pop-punk" as others have said. A cleaned up, watered down version of punk.

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Punk no, in it's singular form it is not connected to rock.
Punk, even hardcore punk, is just the fundamental principles of rock and roll taken to an extreme. The things punk was reacting against, Prog, psych rock, glam, and so forth, were more separated from rock than punk is.
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Old 08-29-2017, 06:20 PM   #374 (permalink)
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Yeah but "pop punk" is real dumb terminology and insofar as it's a genre I wouldn't consider it a subgenre of punk rather a subgenre of pop if not just outright pop music in the Britney Spears type sense

"I wanna be your boyfriend" by Ramones is already a pop song in structure the reason it's punk is the tin can equipment bare production and off kilter vocals
I think pop-punk refers to a very specific milieu. Ramones and The Clash had melodic songs, but they still had a dirty production and unclean vocals. Pop-punk is structurally punk rock but with a super clean production and "conventionally good" pop singers. Basically just punk packaged as a corporate product. Whether you want to consider it primarily a subset of punk or pop is up to you.
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Old 09-05-2017, 10:20 AM   #375 (permalink)
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Old 09-05-2017, 10:24 AM   #376 (permalink)
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Green Day are pop. The term pop punk is just a contradiction.
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Old 10-03-2017, 02:34 PM   #377 (permalink)
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90s Green Day - yes
00s Green Day - somewhat
10s Green Day - definitely no.
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Old 10-06-2017, 07:37 AM   #378 (permalink)
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Earlier stuff were definitely punk.
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Old 10-06-2017, 06:53 PM   #379 (permalink)
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But you admit it was still punk?
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Old 10-06-2017, 07:47 PM   #380 (permalink)
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Earlier stuff were definitely punk.


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it was definitely still microwaved diarrhea

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But you admit it was still punk?

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I didn't say that

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