The "What Does Punk and it's Idealogy Mean To You?" Thread

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by Tristan Geoff

Thrash and Extreme metal on the other hand wouldn't be possible (or would sound very different) without the influence of Discharge and the Void.

It's possible that some styles of extreme metal would have developed on its own though. There are roots in jazz music that are heavier than any punk band that I've ever heard.



Blast beats circa 1968.

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by Frownland

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[grindy]

Originally Posted by Frownland

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But there's no guitar, someone might say whinily.

1971.

[Tristan_Geoff]

Originally Posted by Frownland

It's possible that some styles of extreme metal would have developed on its own though. There are roots in jazz music that are heavier than any punk band that I've ever heard.



Blast beats circa 1968.

Jesus that's some scary Jazz. And in 1968 no less? I really need to get more into Jazz then, love that avant-garde stuff. I checked out your Wolves in Sheepskin thing and I'm really digging it. Might even buy it at some point.

Do you listen to Zu?

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by Tristan Geoff

Jesus that's some scary Jazz. And in 1968 no less? I really need to get more into Jazz then, love that avant-garde stuff. I checked out your Wolves in Sheepskin thing and I'm really digging it. Might even buy it at some point.

Do you listen to Zu?

Free jazz/improvisation can be some of the most violent music you've ever heard, but also very sultry. Go ahead and download those records for free if you like, I'm not in it for the money. Also, yes, Zu is actually one of my favourite bands.

Back on topic, I think that punk's ideals have grown to be something of a cliche at this point with teenagers picking it up every generation. I don't think that it's a bad thing necessarily, but when a punk band sounds like 98% of the other punk bands in his area, it's hard for me not to laugh when they start to use words like "unorthodox".

[Tristan_Geoff]

Originally Posted by Frownland

Free jazz/improvisation can be some of the most violent music you've ever heard, but also very sultry. Go ahead and download those records for free if you like, I'm not in it for the money. Also, yes, Zu is actually one of my favourite bands.

Back on topic, I think that punk's ideals have grown to be something of a cliche at this point with teenagers picking it up every generation. I don't think that it's a bad thing necessarily, but when a punk band sounds like 98% of the other punk bands in his area, it's hard for me not to laugh when they start to use words like "unorthodox".

I kinda meant "unorthodox" more along the lines of emracing taboo subjects. How relevant that is in today's punk is questionable though.

The majority of the punk I listen to is post-hardcore though. Not a lot of generic bands there.