The "What Does Punk and it's Idealogy Mean To You?" Thread

[Serrot]

I think Punk is about being human and getting angry others for taking that away.

[Tristan_Geoff]

Originally Posted by Serrot

I think Punk is about being human and getting angry others for taking that away.

Very true.

[Tristan_Geoff]

Originally Posted by charlielong12

Decent punk music should be honest and about expression above all else.

Crappy punk music is when it tries to be something it isn't.

Everything else (playing instruments 'too well' to be punk etc) is extra and irrelevant and if that's the focus then it misses the point.

Very true.

[The Batlord]

That's my problem with a lot of punk. Seems to me that all of the best punk bands left punk behind and went post-punk. PiL, Pere Ubu, Talking Heads, Gang of Four, etc sound like they represent the original punk musical philosophy more than any of the "punk" bands that came after ever did. I mean, I like 2nd wave and beyond punk plenty, but they seem to have missed the point.

[Frownland]

To be fair, PiL does have Johnny Rotten in it.

[The Batlord]

And he is for more of a hilarious douchebag than any other punk ever was, and isn't that what's really important?

[Black Francis]

The thing about Johnny Rotten is he really drags on his r's.

[Tristan_Geoff]

Originally Posted by The Batlord

That's my problem with a lot of punk. Seems to me that all of the best punk bands left punk behind and went post-punk. PiL, Pere Ubu, Talking Heads, Gang of Four, etc sound like they represent the original punk musical philosophy more than any of the "punk" bands that came after ever did. I mean, I like 2nd wave and beyond punk plenty, but they seem to have missed the point.

Yeah I find it kinda hard to like stuff like that. I mean a few groups could play in the original style but for the most part post-punk and hardcore were way more original and "punk" than The Exploited or The Damned.

Even then, after the 80's I don't find an awful lot of hardcore bands I enjo (outside of post-hardcore, which is always great). It (the punk scene) just needs a refresher every once in a while, but it always delivers.

Don't forget that crust, powerviolence, emo, noise punk, sludge, folk punk, ska punk, and tons of other subs are part of the genre too. When I say "punk", I'm usually referring to the whole thing, not just bands that sound like the late 70's groups. In fact, I hardly ever listen to groups like this.