Are you sure you're not thinking about Grunge?

Y'all really have never been into the punk scene have you? Like, really been to an actual punk show? It ****ing reeks. I always had to stand at the back smoking to clear my air even though I was usually ****ing someone in one of the bands playing. I'm not in the scene anymore cause I learned to love myself. but it used to be super fashionable in the punk scene to pretend you were poor and never shower, hop trains, etc. Poverty is cute when you can turn it off.

No. I mean how can I? I live right in the middle of the Bible-belt in Alabama. All anyone cares about around here is Country, Gospel, and occasionally Pop music. Personally, I've never cared alot about the Punk scene, but even if I did, nobody else here does.

Aw, I feel you dude, it sucks doesn't it? The same kinda thing happened to me growing up, then I realised music taste isn't a good indicator of a person's character..

It kinda does. I don't hate anybody for having different tastes than me (in fact my main group of friends in High School were rednecks), I just wish I had a few friends that I can talk about music too and go to concerts on occasion.

I don't have a good answer for that. I can't recall any that did.

Basically, rebelling that like that wasn't necessarily... embraced with open arms.

That's too bad. My area has a great scene. Punk nowadays is more tied with indie rock and the college radio scene for more or less. The values have definitely evolved. It was never just one thing though. There was always bands like Flipper that just wanted to have a good time.

I wouldn't say that. I always see the definitions for "dressing punk" and "acting punk" to change with who you ask. Some don't do either, but still consider themselves punk. I'm not saying they aren't, but honestly I don't care wha label they put on themselves. What matters is the music, and what the individual stands for.

I mean, I don't really consider myself a punk but I do uphold the modernized values. I don't have a mohawk or chains or anything. I don't care. I don't care if you care. I love the music, I love the community, and that's all that matters.

I mainly started this to see how others view the music. Haha, doesn't seem to positive so far, but that's your guys opinion. I respect that.

I love a lot of punk. I just don't care for a lot of the chaff that comes along with the music. Sub-cultures in general, musical or otherwise, are generally best left behind once you've developed the ability to think for yourself (i.e. sometime in your late teens/early twenties at the latest).

That's true. But aside from all these what's punk/what's not, isn't the community of peers and musicians part of what makes this music so great?