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Black Francis 09-22-2015 02:06 PM

I got into the Hives a bit, especially this song.


sidewinder 09-22-2015 02:53 PM

Yeah The Hives were part of that revival sound of the early 00s - that particular track sounds more like Garage Rock Revival to me though, not post punk at all. Some of QOTSA's stuff is arguably garage rock revival as well, but again not Post-Punk at all, especially not "real" post-punk.

sidewinder 09-22-2015 02:59 PM

I also think bands like Ought, Cloud Nothings, and Self Defense Family (which is still in my queue) are as much if not more post-hardcore than they are post-punk. Protomartyr I guess has elements of post-hardcore and maybe some post-punk, but I'd classify them as garage punk.

Semantics.

Justthefacts 09-22-2015 04:12 PM

Like any of us even know what the hell we're saying.

Frownland 09-22-2015 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sidewinder (Post 1636836)
I also think bands like Ought, Cloud Nothings, and Self Defense Family (which is still in my queue) are as much if not more post-hardcore than they are post-punk. Protomartyr I guess has elements of post-hardcore and maybe some post-punk, but I'd classify them as garage punk.

Semantics.

I'd say Ought has a pretty heavy post punk element, mainly with the The Fall influence, but I agree that SDF is definitely post hardcore. I was just happy to see them mentioned.

Exo 09-22-2015 04:40 PM

Forgive me if some of these fall into different genres for you. I categorize the together because I tend to listen to them together. They're all of the same spirit. If some aren't traditionally referred to as Post Punk then...just...just f*cking deal with it.

Also, great thread idea.

Ought
Cloud Nothings
Self Defense Family

I just wanted to comment on the above three. I've been listening to Cloud Nothings like a madmen recently. The other two are great as well. Oughts new album needs to grow on me a bit but I feel it will.

Andrew Jackson Jihad (More folk punk but deserves a mention)
Antemasque
The Austerity Program
Axes (More mathy)
Bats
Blood Brothers (More Post Hardcore)
By The End of Tonight
Cheetahs
Cleft
Crash of Rhinos
Creepoid (More Shoegaze/DreamPunk/Alsomyfavoriteband)
Cymbals Eat Guitars
The Dead Weather (Come on, they are)
Death From Above 1979
Dirty Dishes
Drive Like Jehu
The Drones
Eagulls
The Evens
Hoover
Joanna Gruesome
Mammut (From Iceland. Yeah!)
Meat Wave
mewithoutyou
No Spill Blood (More Synth Punk)
Pygmy Lush (Early Stuff)
Shellac
Tera Melos
These Arms Are Snakes
Turboslut
Unwound
Volcano!
Wavves
Whores
Young Widows

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justthefacts (Post 1636864)
Like any of us even know what the hell we're saying.

This pretty much describes my post.

EDIT: Disregard this entire list because I'm a very stupid person and thought post punk was post hardcore. Genres are stupid.

sidewinder 09-22-2015 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1636865)
I'd say Ought has a pretty heavy post punk element, mainly with the The Fall influence, but I agree that SDF is definitely post hardcore. I was just happy to see them mentioned.

I'll buy that argument for Ought.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exo (Post 1636867)
Forgive me if some of these fall into different genres for you. I categorize the together because I tend to listen to them together. They're all of the same spirit. If some aren't traditionally referred to as Post Punk then...just...just f*cking deal with it.

I'm trying..but This might as well turn into a "post-hardcore & post-punk" thread if we're going there. :p: I know genres aren't mutually exclusive and I also group a lot of post-punk and post-hardcore in my listening. But let's admit most of those don't really relate to the original point of the thread, and I say that because I'm hoping to discover more from this recent "real" post-punk resurrection that I love so much (as opposed to the revival of last decade). Post-punk often being characterized by the prominence of driving bass lines, dark themes, melancholic tones and monotone vocals, angular guitars (also a characteristic of post-punk), and sometimes a more experimental, kraut or art rock approach as compared to post-hardcore. Then there's also the more jangly and new wavey side of post-punk with bands like The Feelies, Talking Heads...quite a big difference even between those two.

Anyway just trying to keep the thread focused, that's all. There isn't some hard straight line dividing the genres, but I'd especially call out Antemasque, Creepoid, The Dead Weather, Death From Above 1979, Drive Like Jehu, The Evens, Cheetahs, mewithoutyou, Shellac, Tera Melos, These Arms Are Snakes, Unwound, Wavves, as most definitely not being post-punk. I'm not familiar enough with the rest.

sidewinder 09-22-2015 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justthefacts (Post 1636669)
And now I'm gonna listen to Institute and Total Control. Self Defense Family's another obscure gem


Just listened to this album on my way home. The vocals remind me a lot of Wilderness, a post-punk/indie band from Baltimore. Quite good overall, and there are post-punk undertones and influences but it feels predominantly post-hardcore. Some of the lyrics were on the emo side as well (not in a bad way).





This band is a little bit of post-everything - post-punk, post-rock, post-hardcore.

Justthefacts 09-22-2015 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exo (Post 1636867)
Forgive me if some of these fall into different genres for you. I categorize the together because I tend to listen to them together. They're all of the same spirit. If some aren't traditionally referred to as Post Punk then...just...just f*cking deal with it.

Also, great thread idea.

Ought
Cloud Nothings
Self Defense Family

I just wanted to comment on the above three. I've been listening to Cloud Nothings like a madmen recently. The other two are great as well. Oughts new album needs to grow on me a bit but I feel it will.

Andrew Jackson Jihad (More folk punk but deserves a mention)
Antemasque
The Austerity Program
Axes (More mathy)
Bats
Blood Brothers (More Post Hardcore)
By The End of Tonight
Cheetahs
Cleft
Crash of Rhinos
Creepoid (More Shoegaze/DreamPunk/Alsomyfavoriteband)
Cymbals Eat Guitars
The Dead Weather (Come on, they are)
Death From Above 1979
Dirty Dishes
Drive Like Jehu
The Drones
Eagulls
The Evens
Hoover
Joanna Gruesome
Mammut (From Iceland. Yeah!)
Meat Wave
mewithoutyou
No Spill Blood (More Synth Punk)
Pygmy Lush (Early Stuff)
Shellac
Tera Melos
These Arms Are Snakes
Turboslut
Unwound
Volcano!
Wavves
Whores
Young Widows



This pretty much describes my post.

Antemasque sure, the Dead Weather sound more like garage rock, and The Evens I don't know what the fuck to describe them as. Maybe post-hardcore, okay from here on out since post-punk/hardcore go hand in hand, we can recommend post-hardcore bands. I say this because I'll give you an example:


Pretty post-punk to me

Wait a minute? They're rocking face!


The only one's I'm truly head over heels for is At The Drive-In and Million Dead, also Cloud Nothings.

Exo 09-23-2015 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sidewinder (Post 1636894)
I'm trying..but This might as well turn into a "post-hardcore & post-punk" thread if we're going there. :p: I know genres aren't mutually exclusive and I also group a lot of post-punk and post-hardcore in my listening. But let's admit most of those don't really relate to the original point of the thread, and I say that because I'm hoping to discover more from this recent "real" post-punk resurrection that I love so much (as opposed to the revival of last decade). Post-punk often being characterized by the prominence of driving bass lines, dark themes, melancholic tones and monotone vocals, angular guitars (also a characteristic of post-punk), and sometimes a more experimental, kraut or art rock approach as compared to post-hardcore. Then there's also the more jangly and new wavey side of post-punk with bands like The Feelies, Talking Heads...quite a big difference even between those two.

Anyway just trying to keep the thread focused, that's all. There isn't some hard straight line dividing the genres, but I'd especially call out Antemasque, Creepoid, The Dead Weather, Death From Above 1979, Drive Like Jehu, The Evens, Cheetahs, mewithoutyou, Shellac, Tera Melos, These Arms Are Snakes, Unwound, Wavves, as most definitely not being post-punk. I'm not familiar enough with the rest.

Like I said, not all of them are going to make sense to everybody. I really do feel that all the bands I listed have post punk influence in their sound even if they don't stick to that sound for an entire album. I also just wanted to start out with a general list of bands that people could look at and check out the ones they don't know. This site is notorious for genre arguments and I don't mean to start one, but you have a point in that this thread is about one particular genre so we can stick to the pure breeds.

Just curious. What would you classify Drive Like Jehu and Shellac as?


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