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The Batlord 11-01-2015 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1648549)
... after the Ramones toured the UK.
So far as I know the English scene was already in full swing before then.

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Joey Ramones disliked the Ramones being called "Punk." Malcolm McLaren really wanted the Sex Pistols to be known as "New Wave." Richard Lloyd said that Television wasn't "proto Punk," that that word didn't even exist back then (in the 70s). I just see it as music evolving over time and then someone in the industry wants to slap a label on it. It's almost as if they had a new genre and needed bands for it. And the Sex Pistols was a prefab band made to order to fit the bill. I am not disputing their place in music history but I don't see them starting something that was already in the process.

The Dictators was that band that had that sound that was very close to sounding Punk before Punk exploded in '77 to a very small fraction of the population cause most people were into cheesy Pop, and Disco. The Dictators were influential to many bands in the Punk scene. Even Steve Jones was a fan of them.
Except it was the British scene that brought punk to the world (yes, even the clothing style they took from Television). If it wasn't for the Sex Pistols and the Clash becoming as popular as they did, then "punk" would just have been a bunch of disparate art rock scenes with a fraction of the influence of punk.

bob. 11-02-2015 07:45 AM
i was passing out while you were passing out your rules

1 2 3 4 who's punk whats the score?

Josef K 11-02-2015 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by bob. (Post 1648605)
i was passing out while you were passing out your rules

1 2 3 4 who's punk whats the score?
Yeah I thought of this too. :p:

sidewinder 11-02-2015 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by bob. (Post 1648605)
i was passing out while you were passing out your rules

1 2 3 4 who's punk whats the score?
:cool:

Apollonia 11-02-2015 04:21 PM
Lmao jackass before the Ramones and NYD released albums the band's we think of as punk today we're all trying to be Bowie, **** outta here

Neapolitan 11-02-2015 04:56 PM
@ Apollonia post a top 10 or gtfo
@ The Batlord as far as who started Punk "I Don't Wanna Hear It..."

Apollonia 11-02-2015 04:59 PM
I'm not trolling. I'm educating

The Batlord 11-02-2015 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Apollonia (Post 1648726)
Lmao jackass before the Ramones and NYD released albums the band's we think of as punk today we're all trying to be Bowie, **** outta here
What is this random statement and who does it apply to? And considering the New York Dolls (I'm assuming that's who NYD are) released their first album in 1973, and the Ramones didn't until 1976, then why didn't you just say the New York Dolls and leave the Ramones out of it?

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1648738)
@ Apollonia and The Batlord post a top 10 or gtfo trolls
I already did, numb nuts.

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1648102)
****, I guess I should come up with my own list. I love me some punk, but I'm much more of a metal guy, so a lot of my favs would be on the metal side of punk. If nobody gives Marquee Moon a second thought, then I think old school metalcore should be up for grabs.

1. Arkangel - Dead Man Walking
2. Converge - Jane Doe
3. Magrudergrind - Magrudergrind
3. Sex Pistols - Never Mind the Bollocks, Here Are the Sex Pistols
4. Unbroken - Life.Love.Regret.
5. Dead Kennedys - Give Me Convenience or Give Me Death
6. Madball - Set It Off
7. Sick of It All - Death to Tyrants
8. Black Flag - Damaged
9. X-Ray Spex - Germfree Adolescents
10. Ramones - Ramones

Honorable Mention: Charles Bronson - Youth Attack

Neapolitan 11-03-2015 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1648775)
What is this random statement and who does it apply to? And considering the New York Dolls (I'm assuming that's who NYD are) released their first album in 1973, and the Ramones didn't until 1976, then why didn't you just say the New York Dolls and leave the Ramones out of it?



I already did, numb nuts.
Well it looks like your friend with the random statement found himself banned. Tbh I looked for your list but didn't see it. Looking back now I asked myself 'Why didn't I just say Apollonia and leave The Batlord out of it?'

I admire your self control of not adding Key$h and Manowar to your list. And I'm surprised you didn't mention Metallica's debut album. It's not a really a top 10 anyways, you have 12 entries in fact, two @ #3 and an honorary mention. So who's the numb nuts now?

JGuy Grungeman 11-03-2015 09:50 AM
Ramones didn't sound punk? They did influence a large amount of the genre. That's part of why the critics love it.

Psy-Fi 11-03-2015 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Apollonia (Post 1648726)
Lmao jackass before the Ramones and NYD released albums the band's we think of as punk today we're all trying to be Bowie, **** outta here
^ Is Sansa back? :laughing:

Neapolitan 11-03-2015 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Psy-Fi (Post 1648892)
^ Is Sansa back? :laughing:
I would see Sansa Stark in plug.dj back when it was up and running, and thb SS had some decent taste in Punk music.

The Batlord 11-03-2015 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1648837)
I admire your self control of not adding Key$h and Manowar to your list. And I'm surprised you didn't mention Metallica's debut album. It's not a really a top 10 anyways, you have 12 entries in fact, two @ #3 and an honorary mention. So who's the numb nuts now?
I'm just going to assume I was drunk.

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Originally Posted by Psy-Fi (Post 1648892)
^ Is Sansa back? :laughing:
The same thought occurred to me, but then I remembered that Sansa hated the Ramones.

grindy 11-03-2015 01:55 PM
I don't really like the usual punk, so the list is mostly proto-, post- and whatever-punk.

(In no particular order):

1. Pere Ubu - The Modern Dance
2. The Stooges - Fun House
3. Black Flag - Damaged
4. The Girls - Reunion
5. Television - Marquee Moon
6. Rocket From The Tombs ‎- The Day The Earth Met The...
7. Siege - Drop Dead
8. Grazhdanskaya Oborona - Armageddon-Pops
9. Screamers ‎- In A Better World
10. PiL - Metal Box

Psy-Fi 11-03-2015 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1648982)
I would see Sansa Stark in plug.dj back when it was up and running, and thb SS had some decent taste in Punk music.
Actually, I found her taste in punk to be the closest to mine of any other member that I've seen here since I joined. So, oddly enough, I did have some common musical ground with her.

JGuy Grungeman 11-04-2015 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1648775)
What is this random statement and who does it apply to? And considering the New York Dolls (I'm assuming that's who NYD are) released their first album in 1973, and the Ramones didn't until 1976, then why didn't you just say the New York Dolls and leave the Ramones out of it?

I already did, numb nuts.


Apparently, numb nuts qualifies as an insult.

Tristan_Geoff 11-23-2015 02:17 PM
These 5 are honorable mentions but exceed my top ten limit.

AFI- Art of Drowning
No Trend- Teenage Love EP
La Dispute- Wildlife
Hot Water Music- Caution
Converge- Petitioning the Empty Sky

The Batlord 11-23-2015 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Tristan Geoff (Post 1654241)
These 5 are honorable mentions but exceed my top ten limit.

AFI- Art of Drowning
No Trend- Teenage Love EP
La Dispute- Wildlife
Hot Water Music- Caution
Converge- Petitioning the Empty Sky
Petitioning the Empty Sky over Jane Doe? Don't get me wrong, awesome goddamn ****ing album, but... Jane Doe, ya know?

Tristan_Geoff 11-23-2015 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1654266)
Petitioning the Empty Sky over Jane Doe? Don't get me wrong, awesome goddamn ****ing album, but... Jane Doe, ya know?
I love Jane Doe, but I just find PtES to hit a lot harder than Jane Doe. Jane Doe does have a lot of variety though, so I love that about. But if I want to hear a relentless, crushing, strained emotional, overwhelming Converge, PtES is my go to album. Plus, it was the first Converge album I listened to so you can definitely understand my attachment to it.

The Batlord 11-23-2015 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Tristan Geoff (Post 1654373)
I love Jane Doe, but I just find PtES to hit a lot harder than Jane Doe. Jane Doe does have a lot of variety though, so I love that about. But if I want to hear a relentless, crushing, strained emotional, overwhelming Converge, PtES is my go to album. Plus, it was the first Converge album I listened to so you can definitely understand my attachment to it.
I feel you. It's heavier, and my other go-to Converge album, but I just love the chaos of Jane Doe. And "Concubine" is just such a brilliant opener.

The Batlord 11-23-2015 07:45 PM
Oh, and if you dig that brutal, 90s metalcore thing, then I highly recommend Arkangel. I'll rep them to anyone who will listen. They only do the one thing, but it's a damn good thing. I had to go to powerviolence to find bands more brutal.

Tristan_Geoff 11-23-2015 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1654400)
Oh, and if you dig that brutal, 90s metalcore thing, then I highly recommend Arkangel. I'll rep them to anyone who will listen. They only do the one thing, but it's a damn good thing. I had to go to powerviolence to find bands more brutal.
I've been listening some powerviolence recently (mostly sludgier ones like Cave State and Weekend Nachos) but I really can't seem to figure it out. Yeah, it's energetic as it gets in punk, and I love it, but it just gets kinda stale afterca couole songs and I need to take it in small doses. It's probably best in the live setting but is there something I'm missing/not noticing?

And thanks, will check out the rec soon.

The Batlord 11-23-2015 08:34 PM
For the longest time I didn't even like grindcore past some early stuff like Terrorizer, and the odd Pig Destroyer song, then all of a sudden a few months ago the flood gates opened and now nothing but the most abrasive powerviolence will do, and I can listen to it for hours. I have no idea what switch flipped, but it was one hell of a switch.

What are you missing? **** if I know. I don't even know why I like it. It's just so intense that I can't help but suck it up like semen from God's dick.

Havok 11-24-2015 03:37 AM
In no particular order

-Dead Kennedys - Plastic Surgery Disasters (1982)
-Black Flag - My War (1984)
-Bad Brains - Self-Titled (1982)
-Agnostic Front - Victim In Pain (1984)
-Suicidal Tendencies - Self-Titled (1983)
-Jawbreaker - 24 Hour Revenge Therapy (1994)
-Rancid - ...And Out Come The Wolves (1995)
-Cro-Mags - The Age Of Quarrel (1986)
-Leftöver Crack - Rock The 40 oz. (2000)
-Strung Out - The Element Of Sonic Defiance (2000)

Tristan_Geoff 11-24-2015 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Havok (Post 1654453)
In no particular order

-Dead Kennedys - Plastic Surgery Disasters (1982)
-Black Flag - My War (1984)
-Bad Brains - Self-Titled (1982)
-Agnostic Front - Victim In Pain (1984)
-Suicidal Tendencies - Self-Titled (1983)
-Jawbreaker - 24 Hour Revenge Therapy (1994)
-Rancid - ...And Out Come The Wolves (1995)
-Cro-Mags - The Age Of Quarrel (1986)
-Leftöver Crack - Rock The 40 oz. (2000)
-Strung Out - The Element Of Sonic Defiance (2000)
Great list, Strung Out never gets enough love. Have you heard Morning Glory?

Mondo Bungle 11-24-2015 02:06 PM
https://scontent-sjc2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...1a&oe=56B2A2EE

The Batlord 11-24-2015 02:40 PM
I do not understand that reference, but I still approve of it.

Tristan_Geoff 11-24-2015 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1654579)
I do not understand that reference, but I still approve of it.
It's from Almost Famous.

Havok 11-24-2015 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Tristan Geoff (Post 1654570)
Great list, Strung Out never gets enough love. Have you heard Morning Glory?
Of course I do, being a fan of both LoC and Choking Victim.

I swear Ezra Kire has a million side project bands lol

Mondo Bungle 11-24-2015 05:11 PM
MG is miles ahead of LoC in terms of awesomeness imo. A much more diversified palette and Ezra is just a generally awesome dude, while Stza is a giant bitch.

bob. 11-25-2015 06:18 AM
i was honestly hoping that with havok's avatar we might finally see some Slapshot mentioned up in here :)

Havok 11-25-2015 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by bob. (Post 1654703)
i was honestly hoping that with havok's avatar we might finally see some Slapshot mentioned up in here :)
I really like them as well, although I do prefer Jack Kelly's Negative FX work more.

Tristan_Geoff 11-26-2015 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Havok (Post 1654709)
I really like them as well, although I do prefer Jack Kelly's Negative FX work more.
Oh, for a minute I thought we were talking about Slapstick.

Rockette Morton 12-04-2015 01:26 PM
Random order
1)The Clash - The Clash
2)The Clash - London Calling
3)Dead Kennedys - Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables
4)Bad Brains - Bad Brains
5)Black Flag - Nervous Breakdown
6)NoMeansNo - Wrong
7)Sex Pistols - Nevermind the Bollocks: Here Are the Sex Pistols!
8)Wipers - Youth of America
9)Fugazi - Repeater
10)X - Los Angeles

Tristan_Geoff 12-04-2015 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Rockette Morton (Post 1656821)
Random order
1)The Clash - The Clash
2)The Clash - London Calling
3)Dead Kennedys - Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables
4)Bad Brains - Bad Brains
5)Black Flag -
6)NoMeansNo - Wrong
7)Sex Pistols - Nevermind the Bollocks: Here Are the Sex Pistols!
8)Wipers - Youth of America
9)Fugazi - Repeater
10)X - Los Angeles
You forgot Black Flag there, I'll assume My War or Damaged. Great choices anyways. Love Wipers.

Rockette Morton 12-04-2015 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Tristan Geoff (Post 1656831)
You forgot Black Flag there, I'll assume My War or Damaged.
Nope... it was Nervous Breakdwon! But i' m not sure that in english language an EP is a synonim of album like LP. Well, if it's not correct i think that i' m going to substitute Black Flag with the debut of Stiff Little Fingers.

FRED HALE SR. 12-04-2015 01:54 PM
Disguster- Not So Sweet
Codependents- 14 Golden Love Songs
Peni- Death Church
Wolf Brigade- Blood Stained Dreams
Discharge- Why
Disorder- Complete Disorder the 12" singles
RKL- Keep Laughing
Peter and the Test Tube Babies- Pissed and Proud
Faith/Void- Split
Britney Spears-Baby One More Time

Tristan_Geoff 12-04-2015 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Rockette Morton (Post 1656835)
Nope... it was Nervous Breakdwon! But i' m not sure that in english language an EP is a synonim of album like LP. Well, if it's not correct i think that i' m going to substitute Black Flag with the debut of Stiff Little Fingers.
Ah, yes. Morris and Cadena are often overlooked as Black Flag vocalists. Ron Reyes isn't great, but he's not going anywhere. I digress, Nervous Breakdown is great. Doesn't matter, album, EP. All good.

FRED HALE SR. 12-04-2015 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Tristan Geoff (Post 1656875)
Ah, yes. Morris and Cadena are often overlooked as Black Flag vocalists. Ron Reyes isn't great, but he's not going anywhere. I digress, Nervous Breakdown is great. Doesn't matter, album, EP. All good.
"Ron Reyes is the best vocalist Black Flag ever had. " [Donald Trump]

Tristan_Geoff 12-04-2015 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR. (Post 1656837)
Disguster- Not So Sweet
Codependents- 14 Golden Love Songs
Peni- Death Church
Wolf Brigade- Blood Stained Dreams
Discharge- Why
Disorder- Complete Disorder the 12" singles
RKL- Keep Laughing
Peter and the Test Tube Babies- Pissed and Proud
Faith/Void- Split
Britney Spears-Baby One More Time
All great picks. Especially that RKL.


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