How did this strumming pattern+tempo become so prevalent in modern punk?

Dylstew · 07-31-2014, 02:14 PM

In modern punk and pop punk, from the nineties to now, I hear this strumming pattern A LOT. Here's some examples of what I'm talking about:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARK3hihYkBg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoffsBtvzl8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHZHh6xr2Gc (0:09)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjKA8f30Fxg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6axOY4PBusk (0:14)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4u7slnRZe4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTbCotej3Js (0:09)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tersmvh6fFI (0:43, the chorus only)

You get the idea.

It also always has that same type of drum/tempo in it. Speaking of which, that drum itself is even more prevalent in modern punk.

Somehow it makes me want to move my head to the guitar pattern instead of the drums 0.o.

I never really hear it in late 70's/80's punk as far as I know. Where did it come from? Who started it? Why is it so prevalent now? Does it have a name?

FRED HALE SR. · 07-31-2014, 04:34 PM

That reminds me alot of Citizen Fish circa 1989-90. That whole ska vibe is pretty resounding.

Carpe Mortem · 07-31-2014, 04:37 PM

I've noticed it too. Honestly, soon as I hear it, my mind auto-files the song or band into the punk genre. Great question.

GuD · 07-31-2014, 04:45 PM

I'd say the 90s, early NOFX and Blink182 had that kinda thing goin on. 80s pop punk was still mostly rooted in hardcore with stuff like Dag Nasty/Descendents/Husker Du.

Black Francis · 07-31-2014, 05:03 PM

lol ive used it making songs

My reference to it is Nofx as WD mentioned but idk if they invented but it works, doesn't it? something about it clicks..

that chord progression is very over used as well i know tons of songs with that same pattern but they slow it down

Dylstew · 08-01-2014, 02:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carpe Mortem

I've noticed it too. Honestly, soon as I hear it, my mind auto-files the song or band into the punk genre. Great question.

yeah, Each time I hear it, I automatically think it's punk, even though it originally wasn't in the genre at all.
Same goes for that ''fast'' drum.

I now consulted the allmighty let's talk music subreddit. Someone might know..

edit:
I totally forgot about 7 Seconds. these songs were originally supposed to be released in 1983, but were in 1984. Listen to one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVR7jULxs3I

Did 7 Seconds start it? It's pretty similar.

Dylstew · 08-31-2014, 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawn Erroneous

Its simple and they're too lazy or they're scared to do something different. Or they talent is limited. There's some extremely complicated structures and a lot of fancy music terms used in a small percentage of bands that I've come across. Some had their own scene, others get lumped into playing shows with the overwhelming amount of cookie cutter bands.

But I love it for some odd reason. I still prefer 70's and 80's punk overall though.

07-31-2014, 02:14 PM	#1 (permalink)
Dylstew Music Addict Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 1,366	How did this strumming pattern+tempo become so prevalent in modern punk? In modern punk and pop punk, from the nineties to now, I hear this strumming pattern A LOT. Here's some examples of what I'm talking about: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARK3hihYkBg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoffsBtvzl8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHZHh6xr2Gc (0:09) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjKA8f30Fxg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6axOY4PBusk (0:14) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4u7slnRZe4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTbCotej3Js (0:09) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tersmvh6fFI (0:43, the chorus only) You get the idea. It also always has that same type of drum/tempo in it. Speaking of which, that drum itself is even more prevalent in modern punk. Somehow it makes me want to move my head to the guitar pattern instead of the drums 0.o. I never really hear it in late 70's/80's punk as far as I know. Where did it come from? Who started it? Why is it so prevalent now? Does it have a name? Last edited by Dylstew; 08-01-2014 at 02:58 AM.

07-31-2014, 04:34 PM	#2 (permalink)
FRED HALE SR. Neo-Maxi-Zoom-Dweebie Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: So-Cal Posts: 3,752	That reminds me alot of Citizen Fish circa 1989-90. That whole ska vibe is pretty resounding. __________________ " I slashed and burned thru my 15 minutes of fame."

07-31-2014, 04:37 PM	#3 (permalink)
Carpe Mortem Crusher of tiny Nords Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Ugly Bag of Mostly Water Posts: 1,363	I've noticed it too. Honestly, soon as I hear it, my mind auto-files the song or band into the punk genre. Great question. __________________ [SIG][/SIG] Mirth is King Be Loving & Open With My Emotions

07-31-2014, 04:45 PM	#4 (permalink)
GuD Dude... What? Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 1,322	I'd say the 90s, early NOFX and Blink182 had that kinda thing goin on. 80s pop punk was still mostly rooted in hardcore with stuff like Dag Nasty/Descendents/Husker Du. __________________ I spit bullets in my feet Every time I speak So I write instead And still people want me dead ~msc

07-31-2014, 05:03 PM	#5 (permalink)
Black Francis Out of Place Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: in an abstract house Posts: 4,111	lol ive used it making songs My reference to it is Nofx as WD mentioned but idk if they invented but it works, doesn't it? something about it clicks.. that chord progression is very over used as well i know tons of songs with that same pattern but they slow it down __________________ "Hey Kids you got to meet the MIGHTY PIXIES!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbRbCtIgW3A