The Ramones Vs. The Sex Pistols

Queen Boo · 02-19-2023, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

they're great, but they serve as a bridge to actual Rockabilkly which was plenty psycho already

Yeah it was The Cramps that made me appreciate rockabilly as more than just a historical curiosity.

SGR · 02-19-2023, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mucha na Dziko

It's just a brand for the Stooges fans to say that stooges are so energetic.

They're like every other punk/rock band that "didn't give a **** about the government" (and made it their style) from the 60s-80s.

Some of their songs do seem "prophetic" of the punk that was to come, but overall, they're pretty damn bad.

**Frownland** · 02-19-2023, 02:13 PM

Typical Stones fan.

The Batlord · 02-19-2023, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SGR

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Typical Stones fan.

He's just admitting to bad hearing honestly.

jadis · 02-20-2023, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

the true wild man behind all of that was Alex Chilton who produced the Cramps first album after releasing "Like Flies on Sherbet" which is as busted, strange, and original a tribute to Rockabilly as there's ever been

however it doesn't supplement southern identity with a contrived (but still rad)ghoulish punk one

Do you know Chilton's album with Alan Vega? It's good

Detox55 · 12-29-2024, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by PhantomMartyr

I know, this has probably been done countless times, but these are two of the biggest Punk bands of all time. I want to know which you prefer.

The Ramones are way better, without a doubt. I like their music more, I feel they had a bigger impact on Punk (I think people overhype The Pistols impact), and unlike The Pistols, The Ramones WEREN'T a manufactured band.

It's a classic debate in punk history, and I can see why you'd prefer The Ramones—they are widely regarded as one of the most influential bands in punk rock. Their fast, catchy songs with simple, raw energy helped define the sound of punk music and set the template for countless bands that followed. The Ramones' DIY ethos, combined with their relentless touring and powerful live performances, played a huge role in spreading punk beyond New York and creating a global movement. Their music was all about the raw energy and excitement of rock ‘n’ roll, stripped down to the essentials, and they didn't need to rely on a "manufactured" image to succeed.

On the other hand, while The Sex Pistols may have had a more chaotic and controversial image, their impact on the punk scene, particularly in the UK, can't be denied. The Pistols embodied punk's rebellious spirit and political edge, and their debut album Never Mind the Bollocks is considered a landmark in punk history. The Pistols weren't around long, but their influence—especially in terms of shaking up the British music scene and challenging societal norms—was profound. They may have had some help with their image and media presence, but that doesn't lessen the raw power and energy of their music.

Ultimately, both bands played crucial roles in shaping punk in different ways. The Ramones were foundational in shaping the sound and ethos of punk in the U.S., while The Sex Pistols became the voice of rebellion in the UK. It’s tough to compare them directly since their cultural impacts were shaped by different contexts, but your preference for The Ramones makes sense—they offered a more stripped-down, accessible version of punk that laid the groundwork for the genre's development worldwide.

That said, it’s always fun to see how different people gravitate toward one or the other, depending on what aspects of punk resonate with them the most. The Ramones' simplicity and energy definitely make them a timeless band, but the Pistols' influence on punk's anti-establishment image is iconic as well.

Drjohnrock · 12-29-2024, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Detox55

It's a classic debate in punk history, and I can see why you'd prefer The Ramones—they are widely regarded as one of the most influential bands in punk rock. Their fast, catchy songs with simple, raw energy helped define the sound of punk music and set the template for countless bands that followed. The Ramones' DIY ethos, combined with their relentless touring and powerful live performances, played a huge role in spreading punk beyond New York and creating a global movement. Their music was all about the raw energy and excitement of rock ‘n’ roll, stripped down to the essentials, and they didn't need to rely on a "manufactured" image to succeed.

On the other hand, while The Sex Pistols may have had a more chaotic and controversial image, their impact on the punk scene, particularly in the UK, can't be denied. The Pistols embodied punk's rebellious spirit and political edge, and their debut album Never Mind the Bollocks is considered a landmark in punk history. The Pistols weren't around long, but their influence—especially in terms of shaking up the British music scene and challenging societal norms—was profound. They may have had some help with their image and media presence, but that doesn't lessen the raw power and energy of their music.

Ultimately, both bands played crucial roles in shaping punk in different ways. The Ramones were foundational in shaping the sound and ethos of punk in the U.S., while The Sex Pistols became the voice of rebellion in the UK. It’s tough to compare them directly since their cultural impacts were shaped by different contexts, but your preference for The Ramones makes sense—they offered a more stripped-down, accessible version of punk that laid the groundwork for the genre's development worldwide.

That said, it’s always fun to see how different people gravitate toward one or the other, depending on what aspects of punk resonate with them the most. The Ramones' simplicity and energy definitely make them a timeless band, but the Pistols' influence on punk's anti-establishment image is iconic as well.

Excellent first post, Detox55. I look forward to seeing more of your posts.

You very astutely analyze both the Ramones and The Sex Pistols. They're both great for different reasons. If I had to choose one over the other, I would go with The Ramones since they have a much larger body of work than the Pistols--much more to discover.

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