The Batlord

I don't see why people say the Sex Pistols were manufactured. They were a band before Malcom McLaren came along. He may have given them Johnny Rotten, but he didn't invent the band. And they didn't become a "boy band" until they kicked Glann Matlock, their main songwriter, out and replaced him with Sid Vicious.

And if you were gonna call the Sex Pistols manufactured then you may be able to say the same thing about the Clash to some extent. Their Manager Bernie Rhodes basically put together London SS, the band that eventually became the Clash, just like people claim that McLaren put together the Sex Pistols, and pushed them into the whole political direction they went possibly even more than the band wanted to go themselves.

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Dylstew

Definitely the Sex Pistols.

Frownland

The Ramones had quite an impact, but I prefer the music of the Sex Pistols. More energetic and interesting.

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The Batlord

And Johnny Rotten has got to be my favorite frontman of all time. Also my favorite person to watch on film. It's not everyday you get such a perfect combination of narcissism, charisma, abrasiveness, and attention-seeking.

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Frownland

He's pretty awesome live. I saw Public Image Ltd. live a while back and he put on quite a show (as did the rest of the band, especially the guitarist).

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The Batlord

Jealous.

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Urban Hat€monger ?

Having gimmicked names, playing well known rock n roll covers, being managed by their record label president's wife.
Sure they were, just in a different way.

I think it should be about which was more culturally relevant, not which started first.
No point having a scene if it doesn't catch on and nobody listens to it.

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GuD

They were both boy bands, one of them were just a little nicer.


Going with the Ramones for their music, which I still enjoy.

Sex Pistols definitely put on crazier shows and antics though.

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negativecreep

I couldn't get into the ramones, Sex pistols definitely. I don't think they were overated at all, they loved the music they made. That is all you need.

Urban Hat€monger ?

There wasn't a trend in New York, it was just a handful of bands who'd been playing the same couple of clubs since the early 70s and getting more or less nowhere.

Yeah just look at all the million selling British Hardcore or Emo bands, or all those chart topping British grunge bands in the mid 90s, or all those British Alt-Country bands in the early 00s, and look at all that British Hip Hop taking the world by storm.

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