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brass4 02-03-2014 09:12 AM

"joy division" like bands what do you think?
 
Last 5 years there are a lot bands reminding directly this era. Which of cource i love but the influences are so obvious...
What do you think about it?

RoxyRollah 02-03-2014 09:45 AM

? rephrase that for me... what do I thinki about Joy Division influenced artists? Or, Joy Division era? I mean I could be reading that assbackwards...which might be the case... But I need a clearer question to be able to answer...

brass4 02-03-2014 09:51 AM

Interpol, white lies, editors all are based on the same recipe

RoxyRollah 02-03-2014 09:59 AM

Interpol just had their 10 year anniversary for Turn On the Bright Lights btw... I love Interpol, I don't think that there is anything wrong, with using a recipe that worked for one band and modifying and using it again on a first album, as you go on and listen through the rest of their albums to they do eventually, find their own sound, and to say otherwise, you haven't really heard them... White Lies, I haven't heard but I will give it a listen.. The Editors, are ok, certainly not bad albums but not ones I can't wait to get home and spin.. Again there is nothing wrong with being influenced by a group that were ahead of their time.. How many bands would there be if there were no...dare I say it beatles?

brass4 02-03-2014 10:11 AM

You might be right for the interpol but ... Everytime i hear a new song from one of these bands i get confused.

RoxyRollah 02-03-2014 10:15 AM

because you mistake them for Joy Division, seeing as how Ian Curtis has been dead for 30 years or so...how are you confused...

Urban Hat€monger ? 02-03-2014 10:17 AM

I don't do forth rate imitators.

RoxyRollah 02-03-2014 10:22 AM

No they don't do you...

Bloom 02-06-2014 09:08 AM

I think people exaggerate this whole Joy Division copy bands, Just take each band for what they are. No point trying to compare them to Joy Division.

RoxyRollah 02-06-2014 09:25 AM

^ true but you can't help but see the similarities in their work...Tone, song structure, even vocals, hell I have seen some where the only thing that was missing was an Ian Curtis impersonator...

brass4 02-09-2014 12:17 AM

+1 @RoxyRollah

RoxyRollah 02-09-2014 06:16 AM

hell are we going? I don't even know you like that I can't be your + 1

Gavin B. 02-10-2014 02:56 AM

I don't recall that many Joy Division imitator bands. In the early Eighties there was a local band in Boston named The Dark that explored a lot of the same emotional territory as Joy Division but really didn't sound like Joy Division. I'm not sure what happened to The Dark... They simply disappeared into thin air after a couple of years.

Certainly, Joy Division wasn't the first band to explore the dark side of reality, but few band were so utterly convincing as Joy Division was.

White Lies sounds like a "lite" version of Joy Division, but they came on the scene 30 years after the death of Ian Curtis.


Black Francis 02-14-2014 01:39 PM

Wow.. i just realised interpol does sound alot like Joy division but like a more polished version of them.

i always associated the deep voice as being similar but now thinking about it they are also similar rhythm wise although Interpol has way better timing than joy division.

Im srry if what i said is very obvious but i literally just figured this out now after reading this thread lol

Urban Hat€monger ? 02-14-2014 02:50 PM


Jake_Piero 03-11-2014 01:41 PM

sad what happened to the lead singer of joy division.

Black Francis 03-11-2014 06:47 PM

Clone division..


The Drums - Money - YouTube

RoxyRollah 03-11-2014 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Francis (Post 1426116)

WHUT?:whythis: THE DRUMS SOUND NOTHING LIKE JD!

If anything they sound like a JD clone!

Black Francis 03-12-2014 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1426214)
WHUT?:whythis: THE DRUMS SOUND NOTHING LIKE JD!

If anything they sound like a JD clone!

Sure they do! at least in that song money they do..

it's got that same deep voice and the guy even sounds like him a little!

I also agree this band you posted sounds alot like them as well.

RoxyRollah 03-12-2014 09:00 AM

No darling The Drums are infinitely more poppy then Joy Division was.

Black Francis 03-12-2014 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1426350)
No darling The Drums are infinitely more poppy then Joy Division was.

I wouldn't know im not a big fan of them i just i know a couple a songs from them..

And the other songs i heard from them don't really sound like Joy division but i think in that song money their vocals are very similar and even the vibe of the song sounds a little joy divisiony to me lol :p:

RoxyRollah 03-12-2014 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Francis (Post 1426363)
I wouldn't know im not a big fan of them i just i know a couple a songs from them..

And the other songs i heard from them don't really sound like Joy division but i think in that song money their vocals are very similar and even the vibe of the song sounds a little joy divisiony to me lol :p:

:whythis: WHAT? YOU! Will sit down and listen to this
over and over again until you can tell me how these two even remotely sound similar....

Black Francis 03-12-2014 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1426366)
:whythis: WHAT? YOU! Will sit down and listen to this
over and over again until you can tell me how these two even remotely sound similar....

No need i know that song, it's the deep vocals Roxy maybe you don't think they sound alike but i do..

Also if i listen to too much joy division im likely to kill myself so no thank you. :p:

RoxyRollah 03-12-2014 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Francis (Post 1426371)
No need i know that song, it's the deep vocals Roxy maybe you don't think they sound alike but i do..

Also if i listen to too much joy division im likely to kill myself so no thank you. :p:

Imma count to three, then you better run... The vocals sound nothing alike..Especially during to chorus... The Drums front mans vocals are so high pitched! When have you ever heard Ian Curtis, singing like his balls hadn't dropped yet?

FRED HALE SR. 03-12-2014 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1426377)
Imma count to three, then you better run... The vocals sound nothing alike..Especially during to chorus... The Drums front mans vocals are so high pitched! When have you ever heard Ian Curtis, singing like his balls hadn't dropped yet?

Ian Curtis balls dropped at birth.

Black Francis 03-12-2014 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1426377)
Imma count to three, then you better run... The vocals sound nothing alike..Especially during to chorus... The Drums front mans vocals are so high pitched! When have you ever heard Ian Curtis, singing like his balls hadn't dropped yet?

:rofl:

That's only in the chorus and if you didn't like me comparing them to Joy division you're really gonna hate my next statement

Johnny Pierce, the lead singer of the Drums? Better singer than Ian Curtis. :cool: (yea i said it)

RoxyRollah 03-12-2014 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Francis (Post 1426398)
:rofl:

That's only in the chorus and if you didn't like me comparing them to Joy division you're really gonna hate my next statement

Johnny Pierce, the lead singer of the Drums? Better singer than Ian Curtis. :cool: (yea i said it)

You are just talking crazy now! Take your meds. How can they possibly be in the same ball park, or even the same sport dude. From the music to the vocals they sound nothing alike! Nothing! I don't understand you! You are comparing two separate genres all together and trying to sell me on the fact that they sound remotely alike, and you are doing a terrible job at selling me this lame duck. TIGHTEN. UP!

Black Francis 03-12-2014 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1426404)
You are just talking crazy now! Take your meds. How can they possibly be in the same ball park, or even the same sport dude. From the music to the vocals they sound nothing alike! Nothing! I don't understand you! You are comparing two separate genres all together and trying to sell me on the fact that they sound remotely alike, and you are doing a terrible job at selling me this lame duck. TIGHTEN. UP!

Haha i like you Roxy <3

i don't mean to sell you on anything it's just my personal opinion.

And i was kidding about him being a better singer (obviously) but as you mentioned, he does high hit those high notes so he is a good singer (if not compared to Ian)

And again, my comparison is in the deep vocals not which band is better and i tell you, im not the only one who made that comparison, in the youtube comments of that Drums video someone posted "Boy Division" as a joke saying they sound alike.

RoxyRollah 03-12-2014 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Francis (Post 1426416)
Haha i like you Roxy <3

i don't mean to sell you on anything it's just my personal opinion.

And i was kidding about him being a better singer (obviously) but as you mentioned, he does high hit those high notes so he is a good singer (if not compared to Ian)

And again, my comparison is in the deep vocals not which band is better and i tell you, im not the only one who made that comparison, in the youtube comments of that Drums video someone posted "Boy Division" as a joke saying they sound alike.

What you meant to say was they are closely related on the genealogical tree of musical life. It's cool. I dig you. I understand the bass and drums sound similar, but the whole song is to Indie to be Joy Division.

Zer0 03-15-2014 03:48 PM

There's been plenty of bands over the years that sounded like Joy Division clones (such as Editors) and I can safely say that The Drums aren't one of them. I don't know where he's getting the comparison.

As regards A Place To Bury Strangers, I can hear a Joy Division influence in some of their stuff but I would never call them clones. Joy Division never sounded this noisy and spaced-out:


RoxyRollah 03-16-2014 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zer0 (Post 1428003)
There's been plenty of bands over the years that sounded like Joy Division clones (such as Editors) and I can safely say that The Drums aren't one of them. I don't know where he's getting the comparison.

As regards A Place To Bury Strangers, I can hear a Joy Division influence in some of their stuff but I would never call them clones. Joy Division never sounded this noisy and space out.

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This is true man. I will give you that. And Missing you is the tune I was looking for that sounded most like Joy Division. I just went with that one out of laziness...Lol, I got tired of looking...haha

Black Francis 03-16-2014 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zer0 (Post 1428003)
There's been plenty of bands over the years that sounded like Joy Division clones (such as Editors) and I can safely say that The Drums aren't one of them. I don't know where he's getting the comparison.

You don't hear it either? it's the similar deep voice in the verse and the super simple guitar riff..

now i admit, the bands you guys have posted sound more like Joy division than the Drums, in fact they sound so similar it's practically the Joy division formula but the singers don't have that deep voice ian had.

Zer0 03-16-2014 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Francis (Post 1428229)
You don't hear it either? it's the similar deep voice in the verse and the super simple guitar riff..

now i admit, the bands you guys have posted sound more like Joy division than the Drums, in fact they sound so similar it's practically the Joy division formula but the singers don't have that deep voice ian had.

I hear very little in Money that warrants them being labelled as a Joy Division clone. Mind you I'm only really familiar with their Summertime EP and their first album, so I don't know what their more recent stuff is like.

If you're going to list The Drums as a Joy Division clone you might as well list every second indie/post-punk band that has emerged in the last 35 years.

RoxyRollah 03-20-2014 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zer0 (Post 1428267)
I hear very little in Money that warrants them being labelled as a Joy Division clone. Mind you I'm only really familiar with their Summertime EP and their first album, so I don't know what their more recent stuff is like.

If you're going to list The Drums as a Joy Division clone you might as well list every second indie/post-punk band that has emerged in the last 35 years.

:clap: soo true!

Black Francis 03-20-2014 01:19 PM

Fine, gang up against me, see if i care.. >_>

I still think that 'money' sounds like a polished pop version of Joy division!

RoxyRollah 03-20-2014 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Francis (Post 1429893)
Fine, gang up against me, see if i care.. >_>

I still think that 'money' sounds like a polished pop version of Joy division!

Not ganging up on you! You just need to see an ear doctor that's all...

Black Francis 03-20-2014 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1429896)
Not ganging up on you! You just need to see an ear doctor that's all...

Maybe it's cause im not a hardcore fan of Joy division but you may be right, i didn't think interpol sounded like them but after ppl mentioned it now i totally get that too :p:

RoxyRollah 03-20-2014 01:48 PM

Im not a hardcore fan for their whole 2 albums. Love is the correct term. I just kno they dont sound like the drums.

OccultHawk 01-09-2016 10:30 PM

Has anyone mentioned The National?

Stephen 01-10-2016 03:30 AM

Fra Lippo Lippi's In Silence album played like a Joy Division tribute album.



Still liked it though.


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