The Sex Pistols (indie, metal, album, Cobain, track)

right-track · 01-19-2008, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

It could have been worse , you could have liked Cast or Ocean Colour Scene

The wife forced me to attend a Cast concert before we were married...Manchester Apollo and the place was full of Scousers...almost ended the relationship.

@jackhammer...how are the Sex Pistols over rated?
Do you mean over rated in terms of a band, or their place in music?

jackhammer · 01-19-2008, 08:44 AM

Their place in music. The Damned actually released their debut before the Pistols. I like them but they were certainly marketed well by McClaren.

right-track · 01-19-2008, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer

Their place in music. The Damned actually released their debut before the Pistols.

With hardly the same impact that the Pistols had though.

Surely you can't deny the influence they had with their early gigs.
The Lesser Free Trade Hall being the obvious example.
That gig alone caused more waves than anything The Damned did combined.
I can't agree that their place in music is over rated...

jackhammer · 01-19-2008, 09:56 AM

I'm not saying The Damned had any impact, this is precisely the reason I think Pistols are overated. Such was their marketing strategy that so many other bands never seemed to get recognition. For people who are not that knowledgeable on punk it seems that the pistols were the be all and end all of Punk. I like the Pistols and definitely agree about that gig and also their appearance on the Bill Grundy show. I just get annoyed that they are seemingly the best of what punk has to offer.

right-track · 01-19-2008, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer

I just get annoyed that they are seemingly the best of what punk has to offer.

I can agree with that sentiment.
As a catalyst though, they were second to non.
I'll also agree that what was to follow held more interest for me than anything they contributed.
Which is why this 'new' album release won't be getting any of my attention.

Rainard Jalen · 01-19-2008, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Lizzie

I really love the Sex Pistols, but honestly, they should really have stopped after Never Mind The Bollocks and never re-united.... if they reasease an album, i would probably not listen to it....i hate when bands do that, especially twenty or so years after

It's not always a bad thing. Sometimes a band record new material after a long while that turns out to be decent. For example, Dinosaur Jr last year...

jackhammer · 01-19-2008, 10:28 AM

Did anyone hear that god awful metal album Steve Jones did about 1990 called FIRE AND GASOLINE? More proof if it was ever needed that this album will probably suck.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 01-19-2008, 10:29 AM

Yeah but Dinosaur JR as good as they are/were they were only ever a decent indie band. They never made anything as groundbreaking as the Pistols , plus Dinosaur JR were around for about 10 years. The Sex Pistols made one album that changed everything and split up. There's no way in hell they can come up with anything the will even come close to it. Even if the Pistols do come up with good material it'll never be as good as anything on Never Mind The Bollocks

Rainard Jalen · 01-19-2008, 11:30 AM

Yeah, guess it's unlikely to be anything worthwhile. But I still think it's an exciting prospect, on the off chance that it might by some miracle be amazing.

Lizzie · 01-19-2008, 01:55 PM

they could never ever produce something as good as nvm the bollocks, they should really stop whille they are ahead, i mean, sometimes it is better to burn out than fade away, better to stop whille there still good then become a mediocre at best band

01-19-2008, 08:44 AM	#142 (permalink)
jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	Their place in music. The Damned actually released their debut before the Pistols. I like them but they were certainly marketed well by McClaren. __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”

01-19-2008, 09:56 AM	#144 (permalink)
jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	I'm not saying The Damned had any impact, this is precisely the reason I think Pistols are overated. Such was their marketing strategy that so many other bands never seemed to get recognition. For people who are not that knowledgeable on punk it seems that the pistols were the be all and end all of Punk. I like the Pistols and definitely agree about that gig and also their appearance on the Bill Grundy show. I just get annoyed that they are seemingly the best of what punk has to offer. __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”

01-19-2008, 10:28 AM	#147 (permalink)
jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	Did anyone hear that god awful metal album Steve Jones did about 1990 called FIRE AND GASOLINE? More proof if it was ever needed that this album will probably suck. __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”

01-19-2008, 10:29 AM	#148 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	Yeah but Dinosaur JR as good as they are/were they were only ever a decent indie band. They never made anything as groundbreaking as the Pistols , plus Dinosaur JR were around for about 10 years. The Sex Pistols made one album that changed everything and split up. There's no way in hell they can come up with anything the will even come close to it. Even if the Pistols do come up with good material it'll never be as good as anything on Never Mind The Bollocks __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

01-19-2008, 01:55 PM	#150 (permalink)
Lizzie Diskobox Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: vancouver Posts: 660	they could never ever produce something as good as nvm the bollocks, they should really stop whille they are ahead, i mean, sometimes it is better to burn out than fade away, better to stop whille there still good then become a mediocre at best band __________________ white and black, are you looking for the sun boy? the sun doesn't shine down here, no, not in the shadow

01-19-2008, 11:30 AM	#149 (permalink)
Rainard Jalen Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,221	Yeah, guess it's unlikely to be anything worthwhile. But I still think it's an exciting prospect, on the off chance that it might by some miracle be amazing.