Pierce The Veil
 

What is the question?

No. Unless the question is "Are Pierce The Veil a terrible band?" then it's Yes.

@ Charlemagne, booooooooo!!!!

@ Vanilla
Do you like the band Pierce The Veil?

is it just me or has punk become a synonym for death metal?

They're a neat band all though they easily get lost in a small sea of similar groups

Wouldn't use either of those labels for Pierce the Veil personally

Modern post-hardcore feels like a really extended relative of punk by this point

Agreed...Especially about the punk thing, woot woot Your knowledge made me happy :3

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Terrible music for suburban teenagers whose parents drive them to soccer practice in minivans =/= punk rock.

"Modern post-hardcore*" isn't so much an extended relative as some sort retarded brat birthed at a hot topic who stumbles into a random family thanksgiving in skinny jeans, excessive eyeliner, and bangs over their eyes demanding a seat at the table and free food.


*how post-hardcore went from Fugazi, Glassjaw, and Quicksand to Pierce the Veil I still don't understand.

I personally can't stand Vic Fuentes voice D:

It didn't, the bastards just stole the damn word. I wouldn't be surprised if all those vans warped tour clone bands had at least heard of Fugazi/Dischord & Company but there's no discernible musical lineage if you ask me. Just kids being kids, taking things for themselves and not respecting history because if they didn't they'd have to be normal. The horror!

My cousins (all girls) like 'em. I don't. What is Blood on a Dance floor? Yikes. #d-_-b

Hmmmmm

I personally love Pierce the Veil, which I sometimes get ridiculed for. So I won't be surprised to get that here, haha. King for a day is my favorite song of there's to listen to, and sing.

Terrible, you say? Who's up for Pierce the Veil Week?

"You told me think about it well I did".

lol why are you such a masochist?

Ha! I love it... King For A Day is an awesome song. Another one of my favorites is Yeah Boy and Doll Face. A Match Into Water, Props and Mayhem, Besitos, blah blah blah . I liked their remake of Don't Fear The Reaper too :3

I'd probably like them if I saw them live.

31 million views on that King For A Day video though is def respectable!

They're awesome live :">

Wow... Well just because this band mostly appeals to younger people; does the conversation have to be of a kid too?

1st person: yes or no?

2nd person: no

1st person: whaa? :(

2nd person: smh

3rd person: yes

1st person: whaa?? :)

smh

/troll

Anyway, Pierce the veil's cool. I found it odd that He'd wear an odd future shirt so often. Do indie people do that alot? I mean vic and Tyler are both semi famous so why glorify someone on the same level as you?

That's like me getting a shirt with my co-worker's face on it.

And yes; talking fashion's better than a soft circle jerk and a juffalo in sink

Modern post-hardcore sucks balls(except La Dispute), It has nothing to do with the original genre and more to do with Metalcore. Pierce The Veil is terrible.
La dispute is an exception for me because it actually has some things in common with the original genre, sounds unique, and is very well done imo.

Metalcore is pretty bad too. It used to be a synonim for Crossover Thrash, but hey, at least that has it's own name. The only Metalcore band I like so far is Everytime I die.
I also noticed most Mathcore bands sound a lot better than the Metalcore ones.

Meh

I still don't understand how this band even remotely belongs in the Punk part of the forum. Because this band is not Punk.

As for my opinion on them? Not my thing. Never really been able to get in to bands like this.

This is what post-hardcore is to my generation. Hell, many metalcore bands are considered hardcore punk now..What a joke.
The difference is so huge, it's like the R&B we used to have(sounded a lot like rock & Roll) and the R&B we have now.

Thinking I can speak a little for my generation, It's easier for me to relate to more modern artists than it is for me to understand what a bunch of old dead people were talking about in a time I know nothing about.

It may not be as blunt and hard, but I believe It's more artistic, expanding the borders of cliche' alternative, punk, whatever the heck people here would consider pierce the veil.

I did get off on the wrong foot on this thread though. I'm actually a big fan of pierce the veil. "Flair of dramatics" didn't do much for me, but off a whim I checked out "Collide with the sky" and.... I.... Lost.. MY... SH##. I love the singing, I can't really talk on the technical aspect of the music since I just got into the scene, but the music in Itself was amazing.


oh oh oh oh. boo hoo, new "post hardcore" just wants to talk heart break and self indulgence. Yea.. That's what music has been about since the beginning.

And an old head in punk music (NOFX tat and all) told me that punk's an attitude. Apparently some people here think It's a certain guitar riff, or certain range in vocals that make people think It's "punk"

Heck, Pierce the veil impacted me oh so, that It's a complement that they're not easily placed in one genre. Let's then just call it "PTV muzzac"

I'm saying this because modern post-hardcore has NOTHING TO DO WITH POST-HARDCORE.

They're two separate genres with the same name. I don't know how it happened, but that's what happened.

I like plenty modern artists, and like you said, I can relate more to them, but this seriously shouldn't be considered the same genre.

Tell me what stuff like this:





















Has to do with stuff like this(I do like some ADTR songs though, but it still showcases my point):










Seriously, what the **** happened?
Post-hardcore is a genre that came from hardcore punk and then developed into Emo.

Everytime someone of my age I know talks about post-hardcore, they mean the latter, and they don't know about the existance of the original genre.
Well, at least they don't call modern post-hardcore punk music, because that would be the biggest lie ever.

@dylstew

.... Well the latter does have a different feel. It seems more raw and in your face, and I guess what you're saying that these new softies trying to take the same genre as these latter people is an insult because they'd rather sit and pout and write about it than storm the gates.

Like I said, I'm new to this music, and I don't consult with too many people that are into this genre because I'm from and in a hick town.

That being said, I don't understand that every band has to be in It's proper sub genre.

At the same time I'm a hip hop head. I can tell you nearly everything from T La Rock, Rawkus Records, to Stone Throws, and the whole time I listened to hip hop I didn't sit back and put everything in it's own sub genre.

Ex: THIS IZ HIP HOP, THIS IS RAP, THIS IS HIPPITY HOP, THIS IS GANGSTA, HARDCORE, HORRORCORE SHOCK CORE.. so on and so forth

It was all hip hop to me. From kool G rap, common, to Waka flocka it was hip hop.

But I am new to the rock/metal/alternative/whatever/ community, where people actually give a dang about quality, and apparently can rightfully claim certain bands to a sub genre

ps. I didn't mean to get in my panties in the last post if i seemed like i was. It's nice to post on stuff and when other people can come with good point of views.

BTW: thanks for showing me about Fugazi, and "at the drive in". I'ma check more out from them.

My only tiff or issue with this, was what I initially said about Pierce The Veil not being a Punk band...because they're not. And from my perspective it just shows how out of touch this new generation is with how to label a band, it would seem they just don't know and lack the education on genres in general to know what they're talking about.

This band is not Punk. And I think that they would be better moved to the Metal sub-forum.

That said. Sala, I like that you're branching out from the ordinary or usual music you listen to. You sound like you want to learn too. I think that's cool man. I'm a pretty huge Metal head, Rock guy, Hard Rock guy, whatever deals with Rock, Metal, either of those two genres sub-genre too. I can't say I know the most here. Because I've found more than a few here that know more, and better than I do. I'm learning things myself. So if I am wrong here, and somehow Punk suddenly decided it wanted to face lift itself. Someone feel free to tell me why this band is actually in some weird ass way, a Punk band. But I will clarify that I am well aware of what Dylstew pointed out.

Nice to have you here man.

I understand

I really can't make the hip hop/rock comparison anyway. Since Rock has been around and growing way longer than hip hop.

Since hip hop just "started" in the late 70's with slow "hop on a band wagon" "growth", and any "growth" stopped around 2001.

There's alot more rock than hip hop so it's understandable to see the need for said sub-genres, and just because some of the hottest record labels or clothing lines claim some bands as punk doesnt mean squat, since those people use the punk label to sell.

Also the reason this thread's here's mainly because umm, look who made the thread?

"O MA GAWD WHUUU LIKES PIERCE THE VEIL????!?"

Treating a message board like a facebook wall FtL

There are some pointless sub genres though, ones that just don't need to exist. There's also people who take sub genres way too far. Bands should still be able to sound different in a sub genre.

Anyways, I'm fine with people liking the type of music they like.
I just dislike how a genre gets associated with totally different music, that usually doesn't appeal to it's original audience, and that latter version is usually the more popular one and the people that listen to it usually have no idea about the original genre. It just shouldn't be considered the same thing.

Hell, Emo's got it worse. Emo and screamo used to be an offshoot of post-hardcore that sounds a bit similar. But now it's also entirely different. I've heard people say they hate emo and screamo, yet they've only listened to the new equivalent. When I then showed them what Emo was like at one point, they actually didn't think it was bad at all.

So yeah, what annoys me about it is that a genre gets lumped together with a different genre like that, and how most people aren't really educated about it at all. It gives a genre an extremely different reputation.

Third wave ska is an example of a genre that does have a different name, but many people are still uneducated about it. I love Third Wave Ska, but I can see why fans of the original Jamaican Ska or even 2 tone ska can really dislike it. I've heard of people loving reggae but hating ska..Even though originally ska came before reggae and was very similar. That's because Whenever people talk about ska, they somehow assume it's Third Wave Ska, when it really should be about the original Jamaican ska bands, so again, it gives it a very different reputation.

edit: btw, my favourite Fugazi record is actually one that doesn't sound like post-hardcore at all. I have no idea what genre it would be considered, but I like it. it's the 13 songs album, a collection of their first two EP's.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMOAXm94VWo, I've listened to this song 13 times(what a coincidence), but it's a very inaccurate representation of the band :P. I recommend listening to the album ''Repeater'' instead.