Why does everyone consider Travis barker to be so talented?

Black Francis · 03-27-2014, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

I don't see how him being a working musician makes him noteworthy on a site dedicated to talking about working musicians.

Fair point, but all im trying to say is, are we really in a position to look down on Travis as a musician?

At least he is has done something ya know?

There are some musicians we don't personally like so we discredit them without adding anything ourselves.

Ive done this i admit it, my ego judges other ppl who have accomplished more than me but even so the fact is Travis is adding more to this world than my ****ty insults ever will.

i don't wanna explain the obvious but once we judge ppl like we are doing him, it automatically claims a sense of superiority, like some random dude on a music forum is better than Travis just cause he thinks blink sucks.

Nah man, whether you like him or not you can't say he is a ****ty drummer because truth is he isn't you just don't like him for wthvr reason.

it's kinda like mixing your ego with facts.

**Janszoon** · 03-27-2014, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis

Fair point, but all im trying to say is, are we really in a position to look down on Travis as a musician?

At least he is has done something ya know?

There are some musicians we don't personally like so we discredit them without adding anything ourselves.

Ive done this i admit it, my ego judges other ppl who have accomplished more than me but even so the fact is Travis is adding more to this world than my ****ty insults ever will.

i don't wanna explain the obvious but once we judge ppl like we are doing him, it automatically claims a sense of superiority, like some random dude on a music forum is better than Travis just cause he thinks blink sucks.

Nah man, whether you like him or not you can't say he is a ****ty drummer because truth is he isn't you just don't like him for wthvr reason.

it's kinda like mixing your ego with facts.

Ok, but what does that have to do with either of the posts of mine that you replied to?

Black Francis · 03-27-2014, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Ok, but what does that have to do with either of the posts of mine that you replied to?

Well your post wasn't that bad but you kinda implied considering Travis a credible musician is a waste of time.

I wasn't trying to single you out, i was generalising when i responded to you.

Mostly cause i think Travis is a decent drummer but i think ppl instantly go to insulting his god awful Blink popularity (because i do think it's awful) and confuse that with his skill as a drummer.

**Janszoon** · 03-27-2014, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis

Well your post wasn't that bad but you kinda implied considering Travis a credible musician is a waste of time.

I wasn't trying to single you out, i was generalising when i responded to you.

Mostly cause i think Travis is a decent drummer but i think ppl instantly go to insulting his god awful Blink popularity (because i do think it's awful) and confuse that with his skill as a drummer.

I wasn't implying that. I was just registering my astonishment at the assumption implicit in the subject of this thread: that everyone considers Travis Barker so talented. Prior to reading this thread I wasn't aware that anyone held that opinion.

Freebase Dali · 03-27-2014, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

I wasn't implying that. I was just registering my astonishment at the assumption implicit in the subject of this thread: that everyone considers Travis Barker so talented. Prior to reading this thread I wasn't aware that anyone held that opinion.

Let's just say that non-drummers might have a higher propensity for thinking TB is very talented versus drummers and/or individuals who listen to enough exceptional drummers to know the difference between a great one and a mediocre one.

You can probably make a pretty accurate assumption out of just that, and never have needed to be astonished.

RoxyRollah · 03-27-2014, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

I continue to be astonished that this is even a topic of conversation. This thread it literally the only place I've ever seen anyone describe this guy as noteworthy in any way.

I am with you. I laugh when I scroll through and see this here. Cause no one I know thinks he is talented. Not even the people that like Blink 182, think he is talented.

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Originally Posted by Black Francis

Fair point, but all im trying to say is, are we really in a position to look down on Travis as a musician?

At least he is has done something ya know?

There are some musicians we don't personally like so we discredit them without adding anything ourselves.

Ive done this i admit it, my ego judges other ppl who have accomplished more than me but even so the fact is Travis is adding more to this world than my ****ty insults ever will.

i don't wanna explain the obvious but once we judge ppl like we are doing him, it automatically claims a sense of superiority, like some random dude on a music forum is better than Travis just cause he thinks blink sucks.

Nah man, whether you like him or not you can't say he is a ****ty drummer because truth is he isn't you just don't like him for wthvr reason.

it's kinda like mixing your ego with facts.

I am gonna come in here and point out something. Because you don't make music, doesn't make you less qualified to speak on the topic. I wish I were talented musically, sadly I am not. But that doesn't mean that all the years I have invested in music as a hobby don't account for something. Pease go sit down somewhere. All that time I sunk into my hobby, has given me a trained ear for good music.

Black Francis · 03-27-2014, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah

I am gonna come in here and point out something. Because you don't make music, doesn't make you less qualified to speak on the topic. I wish I were talented musically, sadly I am not. But that doesn't mean that all the years I have invested in music as a hobby don't account for something. Pease go sit down somewhere. All that time I sunk into my hobby, has given me a trained ear for good music.

Not saying that Roxy, i know you can't stop ppl from voicing their opinions.

But go play the drums and then tell me Travis is a ****ty drummer.. see how hard it is to do what a no talent hack like Travis is able to do.

RoxyRollah · 03-27-2014, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis

Not saying that Roxy, i know you can't stop ppl from voicing their opinions.

But go play the drums and then tell me Travis is a ****ty drummer.. see how hard it is to do what a no talent hack like Travis is able to do.

I don't do things I know I suck at

Cough* Let that be a lesson to you Barker.

Black Francis · 03-27-2014, 04:15 PM

@Janzoon

aight man fair enough.

i saw the opposite, ppl saying he had no talent as a drummer and that's why i defended him a bit.

cause honestly, he's not a bad drummer it's just that alot of ppl dislike Blink and therefore thinks he sucks as well.

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah

I don't do things I know I suck at

Cough* Let that be a lesson to you Barker.

since we cannot measure taste, we have to measure skill.

Travis might not be the best drummer in the world but that doesn't mean he has no talent, listen to Adam's song or this one, the drumming is pretty good

djchameleon · 03-27-2014, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis

i saw the opposite, ppl saying he had no talent as a drummer and that's why i defended him a bit.

cause honestly, he's not a bad drummer it's just that alot of ppl dislike Blink and therefore thinks he sucks as well.

Don't try to defend him to people that just don't like Blink.

It's like preaching to a choir of walls. It does no good.

I like his hip hop collaborations.