No punk today

GuD · 10-02-2013, 04:52 PM

I hate it when people say there's no good punk bands anymore. Sure, the whole extremist anarchist Suhhumans/Crass kinda concept is KIND OF 'over' (Leftover Crack, His Hero is Gone, Mouth Sewn Shut might beg to differ) but I think at this point that mentality isn't still really taken seriously anymore. It's naive to think that you're gonna completely overthrow an entire massive culture through music. You'll change a lot of people's lives who aren't interested in the latest blockbuster and celebrity scandal, but that's the most you can really hope for and I think that's enough. The people and pervasive mainstream culture that punk aims to usurp is NEVER gonna go anywhere and I feel like it has just as much a right to be here as punks do. I don't like it, I don't understand it, but really it doesn't affect me. It's not a part of my life, of my punk friend's lives, or even some of my not-punk or 'too-old-for-punk' friends. As far as the whole anarchistic-no government or government takeover whatever aspect of it all goes... I really don't think anyone who is into punk music knows how to lead a country any better than whatever ******* happens to be in charge. To me, punk rock is an ever-growing alternate world for people who just want something else to be a part of or a place to express what's meaningful in their lives. It never died and it never will, I think people like OP are just too lazy to get out there and find something exciting or are expecting too much.

Dr_Rez · 10-07-2013, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by WhateverDude

I hate it when people say there's no good punk bands anymore. Sure, the whole extremist anarchist Suhhumans/Crass kinda concept is KIND OF 'over' (Leftover Crack, His Hero is Gone, Mouth Sewn Shut might beg to differ) but I think at this point that mentality isn't still really taken seriously anymore. It's naive to think that you're gonna completely overthrow an entire massive culture through music. You'll change a lot of people's lives who aren't interested in the latest blockbuster and celebrity scandal, but that's the most you can really hope for and I think that's enough. The people and pervasive mainstream culture that punk aims to usurp is NEVER gonna go anywhere and I feel like it has just as much a right to be here as punks do. I don't like it, I don't understand it, but really it doesn't affect me. It's not a part of my life, of my punk friend's lives, or even some of my not-punk or 'too-old-for-punk' friends. As far as the whole anarchistic-no government or government takeover whatever aspect of it all goes... I really don't think anyone who is into punk music knows how to lead a country any better than whatever ******* happens to be in charge. To me, punk rock is an ever-growing alternate world for people who just want something else to be a part of or a place to express what's meaningful in their lives. It never died and it never will, I think people like OP are just too lazy to get out there and find something exciting or are expecting too much.

No you just hate Lord larehip the OP. This is just another retarded thread/post from his collection of winners.

~~Lord Larehip~~ · 10-08-2013, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by WhateverDude

You'll change a lot of people's lives who aren't interested in the latest blockbuster and celebrity scandal, but that's the most you can really hope for and I think that's enough.

Bulls-hit. To destroy interest in the latest blockbusters and celebrity scandals all you need are blockbusters and celebrities.

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No you just hate Lord larehip the OP. This is just another retarded thread/post from his collection of winners.

Aww, rez, now, I'm sorry I earned your undying hatred for disagreeing with your sad tea party politics and idiotic gun-nut stance and actually posted stats to back up my position but, hell, how can I know I crossed a line until I cross it?

TheBig3 · 10-08-2013, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by LoathsomePete

While punk music still exists, I feel underground hip hop has largely supplanted it as a driving force for cultural revolution.

Probably because hip-hop doesn't self-cannibalize in the same magnitude that punk does.

Dr_Rez · 10-08-2013, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord Larehip

Aww, rez, now, I'm sorry I earned your undying hatred for disagreeing with your sad tea party politics and idiotic gun-nut stance and actually posted stats to back up my position but, hell, how can I know I crossed a line until I cross it?

It has nothing to do with that. It is you as a poster in general. You are like a child trying to use big words he doesnt understand.

Mondo Bungle · 10-08-2013, 06:57 PM

He just can't handle the punk today, so he denies it's existence entirely.

But seriously, today's punk is as direct if not more than it's ever been.
Since when does playing punk rock make you punk?

Dr_Rez · 10-08-2013, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mondo Bungle

But seriously, today's punk is as direct if not more than it's ever been.
Since when does playing punk rock make you punk?

Agreed. There is more inspiration today for it anyways. Rich have gotten richer, big corporations have only gained freedoms and frown larger....etc etc etc...

I listen to quite a few punk bands have the attitude to go with it.

~~Lord Larehip~~ · 10-08-2013, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Rezdaddy Longlegs

It has nothing to do with that. It is you as a poster in general. You are like a child trying to use big words he doesnt understand.

Oh, please. I'm 100% certain my vocabulary is a tad more expansive yours. And let's be honest--you became outwardly hostile to me on the gun control thread and not before. Which was funny because I never insulted you, I just pointed out the fallacies in your stance. Nor did I find it necessary to go on other people's threads to badmouth you as you did to me here. I mean, really. That's low, pal, amusing but low.

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But seriously, today's punk is as direct if not more than it's ever been.

Which is exactly the problem. It's already been done. I've heard it before--long before. There has to be something else.

Mondo Bungle · 10-08-2013, 09:09 PM

So you admit there's punk today huh?

~~Lord Larehip~~ · 10-08-2013, 09:31 PM

As someone else said--there's too much of it. It's just a retro act though. It's like watching some old doo-wop group at a reunion. Sure, it's great to hear the old songs and nice to know they are still gigging around but it is just not the same. Even the post-punk era is long gone.

Punk needs a new beginning but the West is a cultural wasteland and it can't happen here. My guess is that the Japanese are doing the most innovative work with punk just as they are with jazz and god knows what else. But stick a fork in us over here. We're just one big Detroit.

10-02-2013, 04:52 PM	#51 (permalink)
GuD Dude... What? Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 1,322	I hate it when people say there's no good punk bands anymore. Sure, the whole extremist anarchist Suhhumans/Crass kinda concept is KIND OF 'over' (Leftover Crack, His Hero is Gone, Mouth Sewn Shut might beg to differ) but I think at this point that mentality isn't still really taken seriously anymore. It's naive to think that you're gonna completely overthrow an entire massive culture through music. You'll change a lot of people's lives who aren't interested in the latest blockbuster and celebrity scandal, but that's the most you can really hope for and I think that's enough. The people and pervasive mainstream culture that punk aims to usurp is NEVER gonna go anywhere and I feel like it has just as much a right to be here as punks do. I don't like it, I don't understand it, but really it doesn't affect me. It's not a part of my life, of my punk friend's lives, or even some of my not-punk or 'too-old-for-punk' friends. As far as the whole anarchistic-no government or government takeover whatever aspect of it all goes... I really don't think anyone who is into punk music knows how to lead a country any better than whatever ******* happens to be in charge. To me, punk rock is an ever-growing alternate world for people who just want something else to be a part of or a place to express what's meaningful in their lives. It never died and it never will, I think people like OP are just too lazy to get out there and find something exciting or are expecting too much.

10-08-2013, 09:31 PM	#60 (permalink)
~~Lord Larehip~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 899	As someone else said--there's too much of it. It's just a retro act though. It's like watching some old doo-wop group at a reunion. Sure, it's great to hear the old songs and nice to know they are still gigging around but it is just not the same. Even the post-punk era is long gone. Punk needs a new beginning but the West is a cultural wasteland and it can't happen here. My guess is that the Japanese are doing the most innovative work with punk just as they are with jazz and god knows what else. But stick a fork in us over here. We're just one big Detroit.