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The ****s Live Chicago Garage Rock - YouTube

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Freebase Dali

Let me preface this by saying How To Clean Everything is my absolute favorite album by Propagandhi.

But...
That album was '90s pop punk. And I'm not saying that's a bad thing, but it's not really serving a purpose in this thread. But kudos for mentioning it, because it strokes my own ego in that I love it.

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Codeblind

You may be right. I first got into punk in the early '80s. It may even be true that there's no punk today, but perhaps that's because punk, like rock and roll, is kind of old school and not exactly relevant to today's zeitgeist. Let me see if I can find a more contemporary corollary.

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Great band in my opinion, but they're not something I would consider "punk". Maybe it's because I'm biased, I dunno. But when there are people out there that consider Paramore to be Punk, we have to draw a line somewhere.

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That's part of my point. Punk wasn't something that was supposed to continue on indefinitely. Arguably the worst thing that could happen to punk is for music to keep on being punk in the same recognizable form as it took in the late '70s and early '80s or even '90s. Punk was essentially a spirit of defiance and creativity that often had a certain sound owing to the equipment and influences of the time. To continue on in that vein for decades upon decades is against the very spirit of the thing. The problem isn't so much that there is no punk today, but that there is in fact too much punk lingering around long after punk itself has ceased to be a meaningful form of rebellion. In order to find today's punk music, you have to stop listening for it in punk music.

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bob.

wow...this is by far one of the best things i've heard in a while

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Zer0

The reason why you think punk is dead today is because you're not looking beyond the first world. Look at punk in China and the Taqwacore bands in the Middle East instead, these are places where the youth actually have reasons to form punk bands. The reason why punk is more or less dead in countries like the UK and the USA is because there's no real reason for it to be alive.

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