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WonderingDUde 04-17-2013 02:01 AM

Teenagers with an interest in punk music?
 
And yet NO RESPECT for the opinions of those older than them and who actually GREW UP on the same punk songs they're listening to? What's up with that? Apparently they know everything and don't care at all about someone who actually grew up when these "old" songs were new and had a Mohawk when he was their age.. what's up with that? And I'm only in my mid-twenties, btw. Punk was in its last days when I was 16..

Why the interest in older NOFX songs if they don't give a **** about people who grew up listening to it??

zinia7 04-17-2013 02:04 AM

i dont know

Sansa Stark 04-17-2013 02:07 AM

You're not punk anymore, clearly

porkchop 04-17-2013 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Hermione (Post 1307947)
You're not punk anymore, clearly

Beat me to it.

Newkie 04-17-2013 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Hermione (Post 1307947)
You're not punk anymore, clearly

That's harsh.


NOFX Punk Guy (Cause He Does Punk Things) - YouTube

Janszoon 04-17-2013 06:15 AM

Is this thread satire? If it is, bravo!

The Batlord 04-17-2013 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by WonderingDUde (Post 1307944)
And yet NO RESPECT for the opinions of those older than them and who actually GREW UP on the same punk songs they're listening to? What's up with that? Apparently they know everything and don't care at all about someone who actually grew up when these "old" songs were new and had a Mohawk when he was their age.. what's up with that? And I'm only in my mid-twenties, btw. Punk was in its last days when I was 16..

Why the interest in older NOFX songs if they don't give a **** about people who grew up listening to it??

If you're only in your mid-twenties then you didn't grow up with ****. I'm twenty-six and you don't see me going around bitching about disrespectful young metalhead whippersnappers.

XtremeEclectic 04-17-2013 11:10 AM

Just because you like a genre, does not mean you have to like its previous listeners. I listen to older country, oldies etc quite frequently (along with punk metal and everything else under the sun) but I dont spend my days in a retirement home hanging out with the people who grew up on the music of the 30s 40s and 50s

FRED HALE SR. 04-17-2013 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by XtremeEclectic (Post 1308068)
Just because you like a genre, does not mean you have to like its previous listeners. I listen to older country, oldies etc quite frequently (along with punk metal and everything else under the sun) but I dont spend my days in a retirement home hanging out with the people who grew up on the music of the 30s 40s and 50s

Why not? There is a lot to be learned from people who experienced what you listen to firsthand. I think the opposite way, what could i possibly learn from a teenager, how to pop pimples?

bob. 04-17-2013 11:16 AM

my teenage nephews have taught me all about dub step....and i hate them for it

SATCHMO 04-17-2013 11:17 AM

Back in my day we walk 12 miles uphill, both ways, in 2 feet of snow just to get to the punk rock show and we had to die our mohawks with stewed beet juice that our mothers cooked on a cast iron pot all day long. These young punks don't know how easy they have it. Hot Topic, what a bunch of balderdash.

bob. 04-17-2013 11:33 AM

beat juice!?

you had it easy man

Newkie 04-17-2013 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR. (Post 1308074)
Why not? There is a lot to be learned from people who experienced what you listen to firsthand. I think the opposite way, what could i possibly learn from a teenager, how to pop pimples?

Pah, a classic line from an oldie such as yourself.

Nah I agree though, I used to enjoy talking to my ex's Dad about punk when I was 15-17ish, introduced me to some good bands and I respect him for that. Although half the time I listened to be polite and so he wouldn't kick my head in. There are many lessons to be learned from elders..

XtremeEclectic 04-17-2013 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR. (Post 1308074)
Why not? There is a lot to be learned from people who experienced what you listen to firsthand. I think the opposite way, what could i possibly learn from a teenager, how to pop pimples?

ey

surprisingly enough if more older people would pay attention to the younger generation there is much to be learned in both directions. I am not saying I dont listen to or respect older individuals but it all depends on the person. I will sit at the park and shoot the **** with an old guy who starts a conversation but I am speaking musically I really dont go out of my way to talk to people about past music, 90% of the time because they often rudely just rant and tyrade about how much better it was, or how todays music is just a copy etc. I enjoy todays music, and music from the past. I however do not enjoy being talked down to because of other musical tastes, or hearing nothing but how much better it was. Hence why a lot of us young punks, dont give a rip about you older ones because most of it consists of explaining to us how we are punks, we dont listen to punk, todays punk sucks and blah blah blah. look at this forum, look what shows up and gets posted in at least one comment on almost every thread involving punk rock or metal of todays generation

WonderingDUde 04-17-2013 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SATCHMO (Post 1308081)
Back in my day we walk 12 miles uphill, both ways, in 2 feet of snow just to get to the punk rock show and we had to die our mohawks with stewed beet juice that our mothers cooked on a cast iron pot all day long. These young punks don't know how easy they have it. Hot Topic, what a bunch of balderdash.

I'm not gonna lie, that made me laugh. And I know a few people who would also find that quite funny too. :)

Zer0 04-17-2013 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SATCHMO (Post 1308081)
Back in my day we walk 12 miles uphill, both ways, in 2 feet of snow just to get to the punk rock show and we had to die our mohawks with stewed beet juice that our mothers cooked on a cast iron pot all day long. These young punks don't know how easy they have it. Hot Topic, what a bunch of balderdash.

Beet juice? Bah, we could only dream of using beet juice. We had to split our heads open and let the blood dye our hair. And at the end of the show we used to bleed to death in the mosh pit.

WonderingDUde 04-17-2013 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Newkie (Post 1307969)
That's harsh.

lmao :clap:

Punk In Drublic is over-rated. But then again, I got into NOFX when Pump Up The Valuum was their newest album..

Maybe I was once like these damn kids and that's why I call that album over-rated.

Blarobbarg 04-17-2013 05:22 PM

If you're complaining about young punks being disrespectful to their elder punks, you're missing the point entirely.

Sansa Stark 04-17-2013 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by WonderingDUde (Post 1308141)
lmao :clap:

Punk In Drublic is over-rated. But then again, I got into NOFX when Pump Up The Valuum was their newest album..

Maybe I was once like these damn kids and that's why I call that album over-rated.

Sucks to your assmar, kid. NOFX is horrible. You probably think Rancid is the punkest~~~ of all punk bands.

Gurl bye

Stephen 04-17-2013 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Zer0 (Post 1308140)
And at the end of the show we used to bleed to death in the mosh pit.

La-di-da. We used to dream of having a pit to die in.

WonderingDUde 04-17-2013 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Hermione (Post 1308223)
Sucks to your assmar, kid. NOFX is horrible. You probably think Rancid is the punkest~~~ of all punk bands.

Gurl bye

Rancid is extremely over-rated. I'm not sure what the "punkest of all punk" bands is but it's probably not something I'd like nearly as much as NoFX.

WonderingDUde 04-17-2013 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by rostasi (Post 1308278)
As someone who saw the Sex Pistols
at the Longhorn, this is pretty funny.



---
Now playing: James Joyce - And I Sept Up Twinminsters,

Well, Bad Religion didn't start playing until after the Sex Pistols broke up. Bad Brains and the Misfits too..

Yeah, I'm new school... I like punk from the 80s and 90s, mostly.

Sansa Stark 04-17-2013 10:32 PM

NOFX is just awful.

BastardofYoung 04-18-2013 02:09 AM

This (loosely) reminds me of an article I read on The Onion recently:
'90s Punk Decries Punks Of Today | The Onion - America's Finest News Source

Newkie 04-18-2013 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by BastardofYoung (Post 1308336)
This (loosely) reminds me of an article I read on The Onion recently:
'90s Punk Decries Punks Of Today | The Onion - America's Finest News Source

:laughing:

Janszoon 04-18-2013 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BastardofYoung (Post 1308336)
This (loosely) reminds me of an article I read on The Onion recently:
'90s Punk Decries Punks Of Today | The Onion - America's Finest News Source

:laughing:

The Batlord 04-18-2013 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by stp (Post 1308281)
La-di-da. We used to dream of having a pit to die in.

Yeah, we just had to jump out into oncoming traffic.

Janszoon 04-18-2013 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1308482)
Yeah, we just had to jump out into oncoming traffic.

Well the only thing WE could do was jump out into oncoming dinosaurs.

The Batlord 04-18-2013 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1308524)
Well the only thing WE could do was jump out into oncoming dinosaurs.

Did I say traffic? I meant lava flows, since the Earth had not yet cooled.

XtremeEclectic 04-18-2013 10:03 PM

A lot of this rhetoric reminds me of a old stoner friend I had in highschool, his argument for why he was a punk was because of his misfits teeshirt collection and the fact that he memorized slc punk

ThePhanastasio 04-18-2013 10:16 PM

I think it's just teenagers in general; not punk teenagers. Anyone older than them just "doesn't understand," because their opinions and struggles are so vastly different, more powerful, and more important than anyone else's.

I have a fourteen year old sister, and a seventeen year old cousin, who occasionally consult me for advice because their parents are so "lame and old and out of the loop," but they seriously doubt me when I say, "Yeah, totally! I remember feeling like that! Basically, you're going to look back on it and realize it wasn't as big a deal as it feels like right now."

And they're like, "Yeah, but this is MUCH MORE INTENSE than anything you've ever experienced. You have no idea."

Same with my sister and music. She's into Mumford & Sons now, and I was like, "What?! I played them in the car and you yelled at me to turn them off, just last year!" And she was like, "I didn't like that SONG."

Then I was like, "Dude, you're playing, 'The Cave,' which is the exact same song I had on that CD..."

Nom Nom 05-05-2013 12:13 PM

Could someone please define what punk was and what it sounds like today??

I personally am not the biggest fan of old punk music, but I really dig the influence it's had on a lot of modern music, like The Human Abstract and Parkway Drive.

I Wanna Meet Dave Grohl 05-12-2013 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ThePhanastasio (Post 1308709)
I think it's just teenagers in general; not punk teenagers. Anyone older than them just "doesn't understand," because their opinions and struggles are so vastly different, more powerful, and more important than anyone else's.

I have a fourteen year old sister, and a seventeen year old cousin, who occasionally consult me for advice because their parents are so "lame and old and out of the loop," but they seriously doubt me when I say, "Yeah, totally! I remember feeling like that! Basically, you're going to look back on it and realize it wasn't as big a deal as it feels like right now."

And they're like, "Yeah, but this is MUCH MORE INTENSE than anything you've ever experienced. You have no idea."

Same with my sister and music. She's into Mumford & Sons now, and I was like, "What?! I played them in the car and you yelled at me to turn them off, just last year!" And she was like, "I didn't like that SONG."

Then I was like, "Dude, you're playing, 'The Cave,' which is the exact same song I had on that CD..."

Hate to gravedig like this, but this thread kinda sparked an interest. First, I hate to throw around that whole "I'm not like that" speech that everyone has heard someone my age say a hundred times before, but I really am not like that. Being a teenager who has a particular love for Crust Punk and old Emotive Hardcore, I can say with some certainty that I would have never heard of acts like From Ashes Rise, Wow, Owls!, Oroku or anything like that without old listeners of the genres to give me recs.

As for my response to this thread, I'm a teen who likes punk music but I don't necessarily consider myself a punk. If anything, I'd be called a prep by any punk. But I love the music.

Janszoon 05-12-2013 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by I Wanna Meet Dave Grohl (Post 1318410)
Hate to gravedig like this, but this thread kinda sparked an interest. First, I hate to throw around that whole "I'm not like that" speech that everyone has heard someone my age say a hundred times before, but I really am not like that. Being a teenager who has a particular love for Crust Punk and old Emotive Hardcore, I can say with some certainty that I would have never heard of acts like From Ashes Rise, Wow, Owls!, Oroku or anything like that without old listeners of the genres to give me recs.

As for my response to this thread, I'm a teen who likes punk music but I don't necessarily consider myself a punk. If anything, I'd be called a prep by any punk. But I love the music.

It's been a long time since I was a teenager and these are not the kinds of issues that really impact me, but I will say I appreciate hearing teenagers who understand that you don't have to wear a particular uniform to enjoy any particular type of music.

I Wanna Meet Dave Grohl 05-12-2013 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1318412)
It's been a long time since I was a teenager and these are not the kinds of issues that really impact me, but I will say I appreciate hearing teenagers who understand that you don't have to wear a particular uniform to enjoy any particular type of music.

Things like punk music just give me more pleasure than the things most people my age listen to. It's a shame that there's such good music coming out nowadays and people are so absorbed in the billboard 100 thay they turn their noses up to any other types of music.

TooMuchJunkieBuisness 05-13-2013 06:08 AM

I'm 14 and I'd say that so called punk died with the Sex Pistols. Or that punk died the moment people started calling it punk. I don't listen to most of the bands listed here, I just listen to whatever I like, which could be anything from Patsy Cline or Eddie Cochran to T.Rex or The Heartbreakers. No one has the right to judge someone on what music they listen to, or what style they have.. So anybody who's going to jump and accuse someone who has a mohawk or whatever, of listening to **** music really should take into consideration that not everyone falls into stereotypes.

And personally, the best punk bands are always going to be The Damned, The Sex Pistols, The Heartbreakers (And The New York Dolls if you will) and the closest after that would be Guns N' Roses, because AFD is so like Nevermind The Bollocks..

FRED HALE SR. 05-13-2013 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by TooMuchJunkieBuisness (Post 1318567)
I'm 14 and I'd say that so called punk died with the Sex Pistols. Or that punk died the moment people started calling it punk. I don't listen to most of the bands listed here, I just listen to whatever I like, which could be anything from Patsy Cline or Eddie Cochran to T.Rex or The Heartbreakers. No one has the right to judge someone on what music they listen to, or what style they have.. So anybody who's going to jump and accuse someone who has a mohawk or whatever, of listening to **** music really should take into consideration that not everyone falls into stereotypes.

And personally, the best punk bands are always going to be The Damned, The Sex Pistols, The Heartbreakers (And The New York Dolls if you will) and the closest after that would be Guns N' Roses, because AFD is so like Nevermind The Bollocks..

Guns N Roses really? You just discounted a million punk bands by declaring its death in 1979. LOL

I Wanna Meet Dave Grohl 05-13-2013 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TooMuchJunkieBuisness (Post 1318567)
I'm 14 and I'd say that so called punk died with the Sex Pistols. Or that punk died the moment people started calling it punk. I don't listen to most of the bands listed here, I just listen to whatever I like, which could be anything from Patsy Cline or Eddie Cochran to T.Rex or The Heartbreakers. No one has the right to judge someone on what music they listen to, or what style they have.. So anybody who's going to jump and accuse someone who has a mohawk or whatever, of listening to **** music really should take into consideration that not everyone falls into stereotypes.

And personally, the best punk bands are always going to be The Damned, The Sex Pistols, The Heartbreakers (And The New York Dolls if you will) and the closest after that would be Guns N' Roses, because AFD is so like Nevermind The Bollocks..

... Are you serious? You're discrediting some of the biggest acts of all time for some major dad rock.

ghosty 05-18-2013 03:32 PM

Ignorant teenagers are precisely the reason why most of my friends are at least a few years older than me (being 15 myself, most people around my age just suck). I'm still exploring the punk scene, but I'm not going to discredit people's recommendations just because they're older than me; if anything I'll take those more seriously than people in my age range. Just because you grew up in a different timeframe than today's teens doesn't mean you didn't have similar struggles; the only difference now is that people can post/blog about it.

police story 05-22-2013 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by WonderingDUde (Post 1307944)
And yet NO RESPECT for the opinions of those older than them and who actually GREW UP on the same punk songs they're listening to? What's up with that? Apparently they know everything and don't care at all about someone who actually grew up when these "old" songs were new and had a Mohawk when he was their age.. what's up with that? And I'm only in my mid-twenties, btw. Punk was in its last days when I was 16..

Why the interest in older NOFX songs if they don't give a **** about people who grew up listening to it??

This is so punk rock: "RESPECT YOUR ELDERS!"


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