The great hardcore/punk countdown

**Janszoon** · 05-05-2013, 09:41 PM

Fucking-A yes! I was a little concerned after Parkway Drive, but I'm happy to see Circle Jerks so high on the list. "Coup D'etat" was a good pick for a song as well.

Here's another of my favorites:

BastardofYoung · 05-06-2013, 01:07 AM

Group Sex is the only album I liked by them personally.

William_the_Bloody · 05-06-2013, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Newkie

Love this song, the Gallows cover was pretty poor which was the first I'd heard of it, but the original is top notch. Never checked out much else of theirs though.

As for Parkway Drive...metalcore just doesn't do it for me at all. Nowt against them but I avoid them all pretty much.

Oh I don't know I thought the Gallows version was pretty good, the songs been covered a few times, Dag Nasty did a version of it as well.

If you ever get a chance give Ruts DC a spin, it was their dub side venture after Malcolm passed on.

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Fucking-A yes! I was a little concerned after Parkway Drive, but I'm happy to see Circle Jerks so high on the list. "Coup D'etat" was a good pick for a song as well.

Here's another of my favorites:

Thanks, I use to love the movie Repo Man so Coup D etat had to be on there. Operation is a great song to, as is the whole Group Sex album. Say what you will about Black Flag, but I always thought the Circle Jerks had the edge melodically.

As for Parkway Drive guys. I honestly didn't know what to do about the whole metalcore equation when I first started this list, but once I threw it into the mix, I had to judge each band on their individual musical merit.

I honestly think Parkway Drive is a great band musically, the problem is that they belong to a genre that garners about the same amount of respect as Nu Metal.

**Janszoon** · 05-06-2013, 10:27 PM

I still heart Repo Man with all my heart.

William_the_Bloody · 05-06-2013, 10:46 PM

7. The Exploited, Genre (Hardcore) Scotland UK era, 80's/90's

Spot number 7 goes to one of the most divisive bands in the history of hardcore. Known for their barbaric stage antics and brutal mosh pits, Scotland's The Exploited was the band that anarcho punks love to hate, so much so that they had a public feud with Crass, & Conflict wrote a song about them. I am however not concerned about their reputation, only their music.

There is no denying that The Exploited surpassed the anarcho bands in popularity, & were arguably the best out of the big three UK hardcore outfits. It could have been Discharge, but once Tony Bones left the band they were done, releasing the horrid Grave New World, and GBH went through a spate of lackluster albums. The Exploited on the other hand went from pioneering the UK hardcore sound at their peak with Troops of Tommorow, to taking their experimentation with effects pedals to new heights with the classic Jesus Is Dead ep, before skipping a beat over to crossover thrash. Love them or hate them, you can't deny that the Exploited always kept hardcore heavy & filled with attitude.

My Life

Boys In Blue

**** the USA

Newkie · 05-07-2013, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody

Oh I don't know I thought the Gallows version was pretty good, the songs been covered a few times, Dag Nasty did a version of it as well.

If you ever get a chance give Ruts DC a spin, it was their dub side venture after Malcolm passed on.

Oh, Gallows themselves were good on it, but as soon as lethal bizzle turns up on the scene...I mean I don't like Grime at the best of time (yo) but he's just gash. Thanks for the tip though, i'll make sure to check that out.

As for Circle Jerks..they're good but they never really stood out to me from the other American Hardcore acts of the same time.

Exploited eh? Controversial, wasn't one of them a Nazi? I never really cared much for them or for crass. The whole yob punk v hippie punk thing really bored me. I don't see why people can't appreciate both styles for what they are... Personally most of the Exploited stuff sounded all the same to me so I never really warmed to em, I liked Mucky Pup though.

William_the_Bloody · 05-07-2013, 09:21 PM

I don't think the Exploited were controversial just divisive, as there were different kinds of punk rock scenes floating around in the day.

As for the nazi allegation, that was rumour started by some anarcho punks but it's been proven as bull****. Ice-T wouldn't do a three song tribute to a band that was racist, and I'd boot them of the list if it were true. That and the biggest Exploited fan I ever met was African American, he got to go up on stage and sing with Wattie during the massacre tour.

All that being said they did have a large and violent skinhead following, no doubt about it, as an ex friend of mine unfortuantly found out. There were two kinds of mosh pits back in the day. The friendly ones where people would help each other & pick each other up, and the unfriendly ones, where people took spike braclets to the head or were thrown off the stage balcony. Pretty dark stuff, but it did happen, so I can understand why people hate this band.

As for the Crass issue, I have nothing against them. I just could never get into them. I didn't feel I could do them justice if I put them on the list, so I left them off.

William_the_Bloody · 05-07-2013, 09:45 PM

6. Suicidal Tendencies, Genre (Crossover Thrash/Hardcore) California USA era, 80's/90's

The kings of crossover thrash!!! DRI may have started the genre, but the suicidal tendencies perfected it by slowly moving towards metal with each subsequent release, starting with Join the Army, their revered classic How Will I Laugh Tomorrow When I can't Even Smile Today, and their commercial breakthrough Lights Camera, Revolution. A large part of this credit must go to Rocky George, arguably one of the better metal/hardcore guitarists out there.

You Can't Bring Me Down (I apologize for Vevo's Censorship)

I FEEL YOUR PAIN (A new version of an old song)

Institutionalized

The Batlord · 05-08-2013, 10:15 AM

I used to be into Suicidal, but these days I kind of lump them in with a lot of the thrash bands that kind of got boring as thrash got more mainstream notice. Like Death Angel after their debut or Nuclear Assault after Survive.

William_the_Bloody · 05-08-2013, 07:54 PM

Hmmm, I would put Suicidal well ahead of those bands. I personally enjoy them more than some of the big thrash heavyweights, but I'm coming from the hardcore end of things, and there was something distinctly hardcore about both their sound and style. I therefore find it hard to compare them to a thrash band like Slayer that seems to be on a completely different musical plain.

05-05-2013, 09:41 PM	#441 (permalink)
Janszoon Mate, Spawn & Die Join Date: May 2007 Location: The Rapping Community Posts: 24,593	Fucking-A yes! I was a little concerned after Parkway Drive, but I'm happy to see Circle Jerks so high on the list. "Coup D'etat" was a good pick for a song as well. Here's another of my favorites: __________________ A Night in the Life of the Invisible Man Time & Place 25 Albums You Should Hear Before the Moon Crashes into the Earth and We All Die last.fm

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BastardofYoung Buzz Killjoy Join Date: May 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 2,692	Group Sex is the only album I liked by them personally. __________________ last.fm ‎"I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people." - Jack Handey.

05-06-2013, 10:27 PM	#444 (permalink)
Janszoon Mate, Spawn & Die Join Date: May 2007 Location: The Rapping Community Posts: 24,593	I still heart Repo Man with all my heart. __________________ A Night in the Life of the Invisible Man Time & Place 25 Albums You Should Hear Before the Moon Crashes into the Earth and We All Die last.fm

05-06-2013, 10:46 PM	#445 (permalink)
William_the_Bloody Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Sunnydale Cemetary Posts: 2,093	7. The Exploited, Genre (Hardcore) Scotland UK era, 80's/90's Spot number 7 goes to one of the most divisive bands in the history of hardcore. Known for their barbaric stage antics and brutal mosh pits, Scotland's The Exploited was the band that anarcho punks love to hate, so much so that they had a public feud with Crass, & Conflict wrote a song about them. I am however not concerned about their reputation, only their music. There is no denying that The Exploited surpassed the anarcho bands in popularity, & were arguably the best out of the big three UK hardcore outfits. It could have been Discharge, but once Tony Bones left the band they were done, releasing the horrid Grave New World, and GBH went through a spate of lackluster albums. The Exploited on the other hand went from pioneering the UK hardcore sound at their peak with Troops of Tommorow, to taking their experimentation with effects pedals to new heights with the classic Jesus Is Dead ep, before skipping a beat over to crossover thrash. Love them or hate them, you can't deny that the Exploited always kept hardcore heavy & filled with attitude. My Life Boys In Blue **** the USA

05-07-2013, 09:21 PM	#447 (permalink)
William_the_Bloody Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Sunnydale Cemetary Posts: 2,093	I don't think the Exploited were controversial just divisive, as there were different kinds of punk rock scenes floating around in the day. As for the nazi allegation, that was rumour started by some anarcho punks but it's been proven as bull****. Ice-T wouldn't do a three song tribute to a band that was racist, and I'd boot them of the list if it were true. That and the biggest Exploited fan I ever met was African American, he got to go up on stage and sing with Wattie during the massacre tour. All that being said they did have a large and violent skinhead following, no doubt about it, as an ex friend of mine unfortuantly found out. There were two kinds of mosh pits back in the day. The friendly ones where people would help each other & pick each other up, and the unfriendly ones, where people took spike braclets to the head or were thrown off the stage balcony. Pretty dark stuff, but it did happen, so I can understand why people hate this band. As for the Crass issue, I have nothing against them. I just could never get into them. I didn't feel I could do them justice if I put them on the list, so I left them off.

05-07-2013, 09:45 PM	#448 (permalink)
William_the_Bloody Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Sunnydale Cemetary Posts: 2,093	6. Suicidal Tendencies, Genre (Crossover Thrash/Hardcore) California USA era, 80's/90's The kings of crossover thrash!!! DRI may have started the genre, but the suicidal tendencies perfected it by slowly moving towards metal with each subsequent release, starting with Join the Army, their revered classic How Will I Laugh Tomorrow When I can't Even Smile Today, and their commercial breakthrough Lights Camera, Revolution. A large part of this credit must go to Rocky George, arguably one of the better metal/hardcore guitarists out there. You Can't Bring Me Down (I apologize for Vevo's Censorship) I FEEL YOUR PAIN (A new version of an old song) Institutionalized

05-08-2013, 07:54 PM	#450 (permalink)
William_the_Bloody Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Sunnydale Cemetary Posts: 2,093	Hmmm, I would put Suicidal well ahead of those bands. I personally enjoy them more than some of the big thrash heavyweights, but I'm coming from the hardcore end of things, and there was something distinctly hardcore about both their sound and style. I therefore find it hard to compare them to a thrash band like Slayer that seems to be on a completely different musical plain.