BastardofYoung

Pennywise to me seem like a poor mans Bad Religion. Where Bad Religion sing politics songs, they are also smart enough to back up their songs with credible thoughts.

Pennywise just say things like "Fuck Authority"... which is one of the stupidest songs. They are an example of something that is only done to appeal to the young demographic. While this is nothing new in punk rock, I think it kills some credibility and just looks sad when you do it in your 30s or 40s.

A song like that or even "Society" are just songs where they try and be political, but it comes across as too cliche to really matter.

I do not get the appeal in them in that way.

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William_the_Bloody

Well then perhaps you would like the deep & meaningful politics of the last band I posted, lol, jk.

I disagree with your assessment of Pennywise, there music comes from a very liberal place, and sometimes it's nicer to have something conceptual thrown at you that is open to interpretation, than something explicitly stated.

When you get older, you realize that a lot of musichans, either liberal or conservative, aren't very intellectually steeped in the topics they are singing about, so for me the sentiment is more important.

I think dumbass blind rebbellion is Hatebreed singing "destroy everything" or Limp Biscuit helping incite a riot at the Woodstock revival. Pennywise doesn't belong in that category. So I wouldn't say poor man's Bad Religion, but I would say the runner up to the Offspring.

The Batlord

There's nothing serious on that album, so why would the racism be any different? Besides, I really don't see the guy wrote "Indians" being in any way associated with something like that if it were serious.

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Newkie

Yeah, I definitely get that feel of a lesser Bad Religion. But then, they were my route into Bad Religion so I do feel I owe them for that. To be fair though, there aren't many punk bands I can take seriously on politics or their views on consumerism or capitalism or whatever. So when I can't, I ignore what I can and just try and listen to the songs I like.

William_the_Bloody

Fair enough, I like the music, I recognize it's a landmark album, but I don't like the content of the song, even if it was not meant to be taken seriously. We already had a discussion about Billy Milano, and no what he's about, so I shall leave it at that.

William_the_Bloody

43. Sick of it all ,Genre (NYHC) New York USA era, 90's/late 80's/present &

All out War Genre (Metallic Hardcore/NYHC) USA era, 90's/00's

Yet another legendary NYHC band, Sick of it All has been a huge influence on the modern hardcore scene for bands like Terror, Hatebreed ect.

Just Look Around



Step Down



Potential for a fall



All Out War

I have found up until say the last 5 years, metallic hardcore, which mind as well be called modern hardcore, has been pretty much hit and miss. All out War is a perfect example of this. While I love the their sound, the songs themselves never really stood out for me.

Defiance Through Fear

Janszoon

I remember back in the mid-90s Sick of It All was always my go-to band when I wanted to make fun of hardcore and annoying hardcore kids. I mean no offense by this statement to anyone who happens to like them. It's just at that time they seemed like the most ridiculous caricature of hardcore to me.

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William_the_Bloody

42. Slow, Genre (Punk Rock/Proto Grunge/Hardcore) British Columbia Canada era, 80's

The Diodes, Genre (Punk Rock/New Wave) Ontario Canada, era 70's

Slow:

So I guess I shall go on record by stating that this is my favourite Canadian punk band of all time. One of those bands that have obtained legendary underground status in my country, but who remain an obscurity abroad.

They only ever released a 6 inch and a few singles, but they were so good they began attracting the majors, who felt they would be the next big thing, (often touted as the Nirvana that never was) but consequently imploded only to become a mere footnote in musical history. They're often labelled as proto grunge for the influence they had on the Seattle scene. To me they're just straight up punk rock.

Anyways this entry should make Bastard of Young happy.

Have not been the same



Against the Glass




Badman




The Diodes

Popular Canadian punk band from the late 70's.

Shapes Of Things To Come



Blonde Fever



Tennis (Again)

BastardofYoung

note: Slow considered their music "Demolition Rock". They have been called proto-grunge, because they share similarities and even had the look that would be associated with grunge, but they have said they are "Demolition Rock".

This can be seen on the back cover of "I Broke the Circle"


They also never released a 7", both "I Broke the Circle" and "Against the Glass" were released as 12" (as far as I know)

I know a few people via facebook who are on the Vancouver Punk Scene (Doug Donut of Death Sentence, Billy Hopeless of The Black Halos.. and a few others) and seeing people talk about Slow who remember them is great. Bring up Seattle bands, especially Green River (though Mudhoney usually is brought up, but Slow predated them, but were around the same time as Green River) and they will say "Green River was a poor mans Slow" (though some bias is obviously there)

A few famous incidents, The Expo 86 incident was probably the bigger ones. The other one was pre-Slow, when members were in a band called Chuck and the Fucks... and them getting kicked out of a high school they played (how a band called Chuck and the Fucks got booked in the first place is a question for the ages)

Believe the other pre-Slow band was SiSu.

Then you have the post-Slow bands, the most known was Tom's band called Copyright (Christian was also a member). Their first album, referred to as Circle C is a rarity as well that is considered to be pretty great if you can find it. They were on DGC Records, but not for long... think they didn't sell very well and were booted off the label.


this one from the demo:


But their music after that went more mainstream rock. They had a minor hit with this song



the follow up was not as well received, but for the style isn't that bad:

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Paul Smeenus

I saw a show SOIA headlined in Portland in '92, We went to that show primarily to see the opener, Fear Factory (being the metalheads that we were) and the SOIA fans behaved boorishly IMO, and once SOIA *did* hit the stage after the middle act Biohazard (who were really good that night but the albums were kinda ho-hum for me) I wasn't particularly impressed. Your assessment rings true for me as well.