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Old 03-17-2013, 12:24 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I like DRI, but I have to admit Kurt Brecht is the real weak link for me. He's a terrible vocalist and has written some of the most embarrassingly bad lyrics I've ever heard in my life. Aside from that they're good though. I just wish they would have tossed his ass for someone better thirty years ago.
Ditto, you nailed it on the head, that's why I'm not a big Municipal Waste fan either, their vocalist sounds DRI inspired.
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Old 03-18-2013, 07:10 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Woo, Pennywise, woo. They always remind me of my pathetic attempts to skateboard but I still have time for them. I agree that a lot of their songs are just "plain" and it could lead you listening to a whole album and struggling to identify more than 3/4 songs from one album, and in a sense they remind me of Bad Religion. Still going, and Reason to Belive from a few years back was steady enough, but I don't expect anything more from them now.

Bro Hymn though, still love that one.
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Old 03-18-2013, 10:01 PM   #3 (permalink)
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44. S.O.D. ,Genre (Crossover thrash/NYHC) New York USA era, 80's &

Stars & Stripes, Genre (Oi!/Punk Rock) Massachusettes USA era 80's

S.O.D.:

A side project featuring members of Anthrax and Billy Milano. The original album is now considered one of the top grossing underground records of all time, and of course, one of the most controversial for its rather...how shall I say...strong approach to cultural assimilation. Anyways I do think there is something a little darker going on in the song SEOD than fans would like to admit, but I can't deny that the album itself is musically brilliant, so... I'll leave it at that.

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Moving things around as I thought this would be a good place for this band, as they are both somewhat right wing & military themed, though the former is a parody in bad taste, while the latter is more positive. They also sadly feature lead singers who are pebbleheads, though the latter is less so than the former. Both also have a cult following, originally releasing only one album each, and finally on musical merit alone....they are both really really good!

So Stars & Stripes, a patriotic sideproject started by the lead singer of Boston hardcore act Slapshot.

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The Power and the Glory



No Where




Slapshot Genre (Hardcore) Massachusettes, era 80's/90's

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Negative FX Genre (Hardcore) Massachusettes, era 80's

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Anyways I do think there is something a little darker going on in the song SEOD than fans would like to admit
There's nothing serious on that album, so why would the racism be any different? Besides, I really don't see the guy wrote "Indians" being in any way associated with something like that if it were serious.
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There's nothing serious on that album, so why would the racism be any different? Besides, I really don't see the guy wrote "Indians" being in any way associated with something like that if it were serious.
Fair enough, I like the music, I recognize it's a landmark album, but I don't like the content of the song, even if it was not meant to be taken seriously. We already had a discussion about Billy Milano, and no what he's about, so I shall leave it at that.
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43. Sick of it all ,Genre (NYHC) New York USA era, 90's/late 80's/present &

All out War Genre (Metallic Hardcore/NYHC) USA era, 90's/00's

Yet another legendary NYHC band, Sick of it All has been a huge influence on the modern hardcore scene for bands like Terror, Hatebreed ect.

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I have found up until say the last 5 years, metallic hardcore, which mind as well be called modern hardcore, has been pretty much hit and miss. All out War is a perfect example of this. While I love the their sound, the songs themselves never really stood out for me.

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Pennywise to me seem like a poor mans Bad Religion. Where Bad Religion sing politics songs, they are also smart enough to back up their songs with credible thoughts.

Pennywise just say things like "Fuck Authority"... which is one of the stupidest songs. They are an example of something that is only done to appeal to the young demographic. While this is nothing new in punk rock, I think it kills some credibility and just looks sad when you do it in your 30s or 40s.

A song like that or even "Society" are just songs where they try and be political, but it comes across as too cliche to really matter.

I do not get the appeal in them in that way.
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Pennywise to me seem like a poor mans Bad Religion. Where Bad Religion sing politics songs, they are also smart enough to back up their songs with credible thoughts.

Pennywise just say things like "Fuck Authority"... which is one of the stupidest songs. They are an example of something that is only done to appeal to the young demographic. While this is nothing new in punk rock, I think it kills some credibility and just looks sad when you do it in your 30s or 40s.

A song like that or even "Society" are just songs where they try and be political, but it comes across as too cliche to really matter.

I do not get the appeal in them in that way.
Well then perhaps you would like the deep & meaningful politics of the last band I posted, lol, jk.

I disagree with your assessment of Pennywise, there music comes from a very liberal place, and sometimes it's nicer to have something conceptual thrown at you that is open to interpretation, than something explicitly stated.

When you get older, you realize that a lot of musichans, either liberal or conservative, aren't very intellectually steeped in the topics they are singing about, so for me the sentiment is more important.

I think dumbass blind rebbellion is Hatebreed singing "destroy everything" or Limp Biscuit helping incite a riot at the Woodstock revival. Pennywise doesn't belong in that category. So I wouldn't say poor man's Bad Religion, but I would say the runner up to the Offspring.
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Pennywise to me seem like a poor mans Bad Religion. Where Bad Religion sing politics songs, they are also smart enough to back up their songs with credible thoughts.
Yeah, I definitely get that feel of a lesser Bad Religion. But then, they were my route into Bad Religion so I do feel I owe them for that. To be fair though, there aren't many punk bands I can take seriously on politics or their views on consumerism or capitalism or whatever. So when I can't, I ignore what I can and just try and listen to the songs I like.
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I remember back in the mid-90s Sick of It All was always my go-to band when I wanted to make fun of hardcore and annoying hardcore kids. I mean no offense by this statement to anyone who happens to like them. It's just at that time they seemed like the most ridiculous caricature of hardcore to me.
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