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Old 01-29-2013, 11:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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WOW Chaos UK at 81. One of the best bands of that era, glad to see them get some love even though its expected. One of those groups that speaks to people on many levels. No Security is a personal favorite. I'd say Englands sound in general was more eclectic then the USA, but you need both to make a killer top 100.
I originally had Chaos Uk a little higher, as they are actually one of my favourite bands for their early material. I am however trying to take all sentiment out of this, and strictly go by ear, which means I've placed a lot a bands that I'm not so hot on ahead of them.

You may see some very notable UK bands fly by on this list, but not to worry, I was bred on the Brit stuff, so there are defiantly UK bands in the top 10...just might not be who you expect.
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80. Gorilla Biscuits Genre (Melodic Hardcore/NYHC) New York USA , era 80's and

Youth of Today Genre (Melodic Hardcore/NYHC) New York USA, era 90's

Okay so here is where I originally had placed Gorilla Biscuits before I started tinkering around with things, I'm sure GB fans are still none to happy, lol, but I admit I did initially low ball them.


Anyways I stand by what I originally stated, One of New York's finest, that has been immortalized over the years. I think they were good but they only had one official full length album, had they stuck around and given us few more New Direction & Start Today songs they would be further up the list.

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Okay now that I've pissed off the yanks its time to tick of the Brits, I'll probably have half of England projecting beer bottles at me after the next enrty, and then near the end of this set my Canadian brethern will have it in for me as well, lol.

Youth of Today

I had originally cut Youth of Today from the list, but as I'm revamping things, I mind as well place them next to the GB's as they are both the most notable straight edge hardcore bands of their era. Minus Minor Threat of course.

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Old 01-30-2013, 07:19 PM   #3 (permalink)
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79. Discharge Genre (Hardcore/D beat) Stoke on Trent Uk, era 80's &

Lobotomia Genre (Hardcore/Crossover Thrash) Brazil, era 80's

Discharge:

Whenever you low ball one of the greats you usually have to provide some sort of explanation. I did put Discharge in the top 100, but for many this band should probably be in the top 20 considering the influence they had on bands like Metallica , Anthrax and the thrash metal scene in general. I do however have a good explanation that goes beyond saying I'm not a huge fan of their sound.

One notable difference between underground bands & mainstream bands is that the former is often plagued with line up changes, and when you lose a key member of your band, the chances of continuing as something legendary are often stacked against you. This is what happened with Discharge after Tony Bones left to form his own band, although Cal was important, it was Tony Bones who was really the matrix of the groups sound, and in my opinion, he is one of the better hardcore guitarist out there. It's a shame he left because afterwards he began to pursue a more aggressive grinding guitar sound, together he and Cal could have produced wonders, but they spit, and so here they sit well below GBH & the Exploited.

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Lobotomia was a band from Brazil that was intitially inspired by early British hardcore, but eventually switched over to crossover thrash. I quite like them more than Ratos de Porao, and they released a new album a while back that doesn't sound too bad, I can't get individual tracks for upload though.

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80. Gorilla Biscuits Genre (Melodic Hardcore/NYHC) New York USA , era 80's

Okay so here is where I originally had placed Gorilla Biscuits before I started tinkering around with things, I'm sure GB fans are still none to happy, lol, but I admit I did initially low ball them.


Anyways I stand by what I originally stated, One of New York's finest, that has been immortalized over the years. I think they were good but they only had one official full length album, had they stuck around and given us few more New Direction & Start Today songs they would be further up the list.
Ah, Gorilla Biscuits were the first hardcore band I ever got into. They'll always have a special place in my heart because of that.
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hmmmm.....keeping my mouth shut about Gorilla Biscuits

but wow man.....i can see not really liking Discharge....although i'd disagree....but keeping in mind that an entire sub genre of punk rock "D Beat" comes from and is named after this band....i mean amazing bands like Anti Cimex, Misantropic, Doom, even Dropdead.....i'd even agree that Discharge had as much influence on early black metal as Bathory and Venom.....and probably influence those two bands

as always...your list you opinion....and cannot wait to see your top ten

i'll just say it now....i for one can't fucking stand the exploited....and blame them for "punker than thou" acts like rancid....

i feel you got great taste and can't wait to see where they are on the list
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Uniform Choice was a revelation. I gotta say I'd have Discharge in my top ten easy. That snap crackle pop guitar sound, the earth shattering vocals and the amazing energy of their music was very powerful. More then any other d-beat band less Doom, Discharge really created something different and new, the way bands like Extreme Noise Terror did also. One of my favorite punk rock bands in general. Why is one of those albums that comes along that just bashes your head in and makes you see music in a different light. Interested to see where this thread goes also, WTB has done one hell of a good job even if Chaos UK and Discharge should be higher up in my opinion. Great thread.
Well if its any conselation, there is another band coming up with a former Discharge member in it, though you may have to wait awhile.


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hmmmm.....keeping my mouth shut about Gorilla Biscuits

but wow man.....i can see not really liking Discharge....although i'd disagree....but keeping in mind that an entire sub genre of punk rock "D Beat" comes from and is named after this band....i mean amazing bands like Anti Cimex, Misantropic, Doom, even Dropdead.....i'd even agree that Discharge had as much influence on early black metal as Bathory and Venom.....and probably influence those two bands

as always...your list you opinion....and cannot wait to see your top ten

i'll just say it now....i for one can't fucking stand the exploited....and blame them for "punker than thou" acts like rancid....

i feel you got great taste and can't wait to see where they are on the list
Egads! you don't like The Exploited or Rancid! "Can you fly Bobby!" jk I wonder if anyone will catch where that quote is from. I don't know how people will take my top 10, honestly I think most people will be disapointed, its a little unorthodox, I'm also still working on whose in & whose out of it, a little ways away yet.

Anyways it appears I've survived the Discharge, but not the Gorilla Biscuits onslaught. So I know I've said this a thousand times but if enough people put their input in at the end, I'll revamp the list according to MB members. Anyways time for some grind.
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78. Terrorizer Genre (Grindcore), California USA era 80's
Pig Destroyer Genre (Grindcore), Virginia USA, era Modern

I mentioned in passing that we may see Pig Destroyer again, as I didn't give them a fair shake, and sort of stuck them below Brutal Truth hoping no one would notice. I must confess that I've always held a thinly veiled prejudice against grindcore, in that I've always viewed it as punk's poor man's version of Death Metal, even though grind came first, it defiantly got superseeded by the latter. To me death metal is more technically interesting, although I know many grind fans would disagree, preferring the raw brutality it has to offer

That being said, there are some talented grindcore bands that have turned the genre into a perfected art, and so I give you the best of American grind, Terrorizer & Pig Destroyer, and a shot out to Assuck who didn't make the list. Next up....more grind!!!

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77. Bring me the Horizon Genre (Metalcore/Hardcore/Deathcore) Sheffield UK, era Modern &

Six FT Ditch Genre (Beatdown Hardcore/Murdercore) Hampshire UK, era Modern

BMTH

So I put the grind on hold for a sec, moving things around again.
Anyhow I think I gave fair warning before that there are some emocore bands are on the list, but I am not going to back down on this one, despite the fact that BMTH attracts a lot of fan fare hatred.

I have been following this band since their early inception shortly after the release of their first ep. I recognized the talent back then, and I am not surprised that they've became one of the biggest names in metalcore, and will continue to do so in the years to come, provided they don't keep replacing their guitarists.

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I was originally going to pair BMTH up with another metalcore band like the Architects, but after hearing them do a bunch of girlie power ballads, it looks like they're on their way to selling out, so at this point, I've come to believe that metalcore is beyond redemption, and thus I give you some murdercore instead.

Now for those of you who hate the whole...how shall I say...thug attitude of beatdown hardcore, I shall forewarn you that this won't be your cup of tea. It sounds like a combination of New York Hardcore, with some metal and gangsta attitude thrown in. Anyways it does it job,

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1993 hanging out with my ex Michelle...she introduce me to here current boyfriend Eric Prater.....we chatted for a bit and he asked me if i like hardcore music....i stated of course and named of Helmet and Jesus Lizard.....he looked at me and handed me two albums saying "you have no idea what hardcore is. listen to these" one album was Uniform Choice's Screaming For Change and the other was Gorilla Biscuits's Start Today.....that horn into still puts me in a frenzy
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1993 hanging out with my ex Michelle...she introduce me to here current boyfriend Eric Prater.....we chatted for a bit and he asked me if i like hardcore music....i stated of course and named of Helmet and Jesus Lizard.....he looked at me and handed me two albums saying "you have no idea what hardcore is. listen to these" one album was Uniform Choice's Screaming For Change and the other was Gorilla Biscuits's Start Today.....that horn into still puts me in a frenzy
In my case it was my buddy Randy who introduced them to me sometime in 1991 or 1992, when I was a freshman in high school. It was a great little musical exchange we had going on—he was the punk kid and I was the "industrial" kid. He introduced me to Gorilla Biscuits, Fugazi and Black Flag. I introduced him to Ministry, PiL and Pigface.

It's funny how we all remember such specifics about how we got into bands when we were young. These days I can't remember where I first heard of a band most of the time it seems.
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