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Old 06-27-2012, 07:55 PM   #121 (permalink)
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That's alright by me, understandable. Like I said I didn't get the privilege to experience that here. So I've had the beneficial side. Sorry it wasn't the same for you so I'll cease to discuss. Opening up different points is good though, so thanks.
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Old 06-27-2012, 08:01 PM   #122 (permalink)
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I have no problem continuing the discussion, that's why I'm here as well, to discuss music and agree/disagree with others, and explain why.
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Old 06-28-2012, 03:20 AM   #123 (permalink)
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Correct, both Kiss and the Dolls were early purveyors of "in yer face low-rent trashy rock" I was never a fan of either of these two bands but they do have their moments, the third Kiss release had a good pop edge to it and I can listen to "Strutter" from the debut anytime, also some of the best Kiss songs on these albums were the ballads.

Not many people outside the UK know who the Sweet are, but this song was one of their best. Pat Benatar did a superb cover of it on her debut album. For the record Sweet were also a huge influence on Def Leppard as well.


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Old 06-28-2012, 03:24 AM   #124 (permalink)
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Since Marilyn Manson (probably wrongly) claimed The Doors were the first Punk band, could I throw their debut into the hat?
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Old 06-28-2012, 04:53 AM   #125 (permalink)
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Since Marilyn Manson (probably wrongly) claimed The Doors were the first Punk band, could I throw their debut into the hat?
Manson is a pretentious dick. The Doors were a great band IMO, maybe their attitude influenced punk rock, but that's about all I can think of. Morrison would have made a fabulous punk/hardcore frontman (he's Glenn Danzig's biggest influence) but yeah, I think they're a long ways off from punk. Marilyn Manson probably thinks he's a real punk rocker.
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Old 06-28-2012, 07:12 AM   #126 (permalink)
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Oh I certainly agree, but I think the attitude of The Doors could qualify them.
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Old 06-28-2012, 07:38 AM   #127 (permalink)
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Agree that their attitude is the first of it's kind. People talk about how The Stones had attitude, The Doors simply didn't give a ****. Morrison is a huge influence on punk.
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Old 07-21-2012, 11:25 AM   #128 (permalink)
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What's the general opinion of Refused on here?
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Old 07-21-2012, 06:44 PM   #129 (permalink)
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^I would think everyone loves them, but I don't really know.
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Old 07-22-2012, 05:58 PM   #130 (permalink)
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Refused are overrated. While "Shape of Punk to Come" is a decent album, and one of the better ones from Epitaph, it is still hardly new or groundbreaking. Maybe in the context of the time it was released it was, but in the grand scheme of things, had been done before... Nation of Ulysses come to mind as a band who did it before them, sure not with a lot of the electronics or what not... but still the style was there.

I like Refused, but I do not get the hype they receive still. I found the majority of "Shape..." to be rather boring. Had a great single in "New Noise" and the rest was just alright.
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