What is Punk (rock, genre, The Ramones, sex pistols, exploited)

bmxpunkr · 05-04-2005, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Fenixpunk

A punk and a "normal" guy are walking down the street one day. The punk is in classic form; six inch blue liberty spikes, plaid bondage pants, leather jacket with band names scribbled all over it, etc. The normal guy turns to the punk and asks, "So just exactly what is punk anyway?" The punk emphatically replies, "Man, punk is doing whatever you want, whenever you want to and not giving a **** what anybody else thinks...you see that trash can right there?" The punk walks over to a nearby trashcan and kicks it over, spilling garbage all over the sidewalk. "That's punk." The normal guy ponders this as they continue to walk down the sidewalk. The next trash can they come to, the normal guy steps up and gives a kick, sending garbage flying everywhere. He turns to the punk, "So that's punk, huh?" The punk replies, "No, that's trendy."

I'd like to point out that this quote was from Billie Joe Armstrong of Green Day, for those of you who don't think that he's punk.

ArtistInTheAmbulance · 05-04-2005, 03:44 PM

Oh come on, I could have said that, it wouldnt make me a punk just saying it, would it?!!

Fenixpunk · 05-04-2005, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bmxpunkr

I'd like to point out that this quote was from Billie Joe Armstrong of Green Day, for those of you who don't think that he's punk.

funny, i got it from the joke page on oldpunks.com - submitted by Richard Hawes

only quote i remember from billy joe would be "whos throwing pennies at us?"
(which would of been me and some friends after jumping the fence to a green day concert during the phx fair)

Anarchy doll · 05-05-2005, 01:41 PM

nice Fenix!

adidasss · 05-08-2005, 11:39 AM

ok, i'm not punk and don't particulary like the genre, but i have a question/request...i always thought that punk was the sex pistols, so when i started listening to greenday and offspring it didn't really add up, they were too melow, and kinda popish...but then it occured to me that the ramones were punk way back, and they were kinda popish, so i came to the conclusion that punk is fast pop...but then i bought renegades from rage against the machine, and on it was a cover of in my eyes, and i thought, well this is/was what punk should sound like...so i'm asking could someone download this cover from RATM and tell me what they think of it?isn't that what punk should sound like?

Trauma · 05-08-2005, 12:48 PM

I listened to that song In My Eyes, I've never heard that before.
I'd say that was thrash punk if that makes sense.
It sounded a little more L.A. influenced, more hardcore, but that's what most all of RATM's stuff sounds like, just some has a little hip-hop influence too.
I think that The Ramones weren't classified as pop-punk because they were one of the first and back then everything was "heavier". Maybe that's why it was called punk-rock, it was proto-punk anyway. I mean if Green Day had come out as early as that with their American Idiot album it would have probably been classified as punk, because when it just started people hadn't discovered all the little sub-genres and whatnot. I think The Ramones didn't appeal to EVERYONE as well and that's why they were more "punkish". I guess they weren't as popular as Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin at the time so they were more "underground". I wouldn't call Green Day "underground".
But I don't know, I wasn't alive in '78. so I wouldn't know. I've just been rambling.

punkrocklove · 05-11-2005, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Hairy McTouch

I am Irish and young (but musically educated). We must remember to be very carefull about what passes for punk. Punk was born in Thatcherite England when they really had something to complain about and a reason to be angry. The Pistols, The Stranglers, The Clash and the rest rallied the masses. Irish punk bands were the next to follow as the country was (and still is) at war with England. It takes real issues to create real punk music. I hate to see all these American cry-baby bands whinging about there mum telling them to clean their room. Its only pop with intsuments.

"Tiocaidh ar la" - Our day will come

The only american cry baby bands are the emo bands and so are teh Irish Emo bands. I know you made this threat but it doesn't explain anything of the punk movement, now If you wan't to know how it really happend go here and do some research.
http://encyclopedia.lockergnome.com/s/b/Punk_rock

Fenixpunk · 05-11-2005, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Snickers

I listened to that song In My Eyes, I've never heard that before.
I'd say that was thrash punk if that makes sense.
It sounded a little more L.A. influenced, more hardcore, but that's what most all of RATM's stuff sounds like, just some has a little hip-hop influence too.

In My Eyes was originally done by Minor Threat.

SEVRINLEADER · 05-11-2005, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Fenixpunk

A punk and a "normal" guy are walking down the street one day. The punk is in classic form; six inch blue liberty spikes, plaid bondage pants, leather jacket with band names scribbled all over it, etc. The normal guy turns to the punk and asks, "So just exactly what is punk anyway?" The punk emphatically replies, "Man, punk is doing whatever you want, whenever you want to and not giving a **** what anybody else thinks...you see that trash can right there?" The punk walks over to a nearby trashcan and kicks it over, spilling garbage all over the sidewalk. "That's punk." The normal guy ponders this as they continue to walk down the sidewalk. The next trash can they come to, the normal guy steps up and gives a kick, sending garbage flying everywhere. He turns to the punk, "So that's punk, huh?" The punk replies, "No, that's trendy."

Best thing I've read in a while.

phoenixflames · 05-11-2005, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by punkrocklove

The only american cry baby bands are the emo bands and so are teh Irish Emo bands. I know you made this threat but it doesn't explain anything of the punk movement, now If you wan't to know how it really happend go here and do some research.
http://encyclopedia.lockergnome.com/s/b/Punk_rock

What are you trying to prove? You come into several different theads and act like you are some sort of "King Of The Punks". What difference does it make to you what everyone thinks punk is? I don't want this post to sound hateful or argumentitive, but it seems like you have something to prove. Like you have to show everyone how "punk" you are, and since you supposedly know more than we do, that somehow makes you better than us. Why are you trying so hard?

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adidasss Slavic gay sauce Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Abu Dhabi Posts: 7,993	ok, i'm not punk and don't particulary like the genre, but i have a question/request...i always thought that punk was the sex pistols, so when i started listening to greenday and offspring it didn't really add up, they were too melow, and kinda popish...but then it occured to me that the ramones were punk way back, and they were kinda popish, so i came to the conclusion that punk is fast pop...but then i bought renegades from rage against the machine, and on it was a cover of in my eyes, and i thought, well this is/was what punk should sound like...so i'm asking could someone download this cover from RATM and tell me what they think of it?isn't that what punk should sound like? __________________ “Think of what a paradise this world would be if men were kind and wise.” - Kurt Vonnegut, Cat's Cradle. Last.fm

05-08-2005, 12:48 PM	#26 (permalink)
Trauma snickers Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: detroit Posts: 2,194	I listened to that song In My Eyes, I've never heard that before. I'd say that was thrash punk if that makes sense. It sounded a little more L.A. influenced, more hardcore, but that's what most all of RATM's stuff sounds like, just some has a little hip-hop influence too. I think that The Ramones weren't classified as pop-punk because they were one of the first and back then everything was "heavier". Maybe that's why it was called punk-rock, it was proto-punk anyway. I mean if Green Day had come out as early as that with their American Idiot album it would have probably been classified as punk, because when it just started people hadn't discovered all the little sub-genres and whatnot. I think The Ramones didn't appeal to EVERYONE as well and that's why they were more "punkish". I guess they weren't as popular as Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin at the time so they were more "underground". I wouldn't call Green Day "underground". But I don't know, I wasn't alive in '78. so I wouldn't know. I've just been rambling. __________________ A mi no me importa nada Para mi la vida es un sueño