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Crionics 09-22-2011 09:18 PM

punkrock guitarists who are brilliant.
 
Off the top of my head.
The Cretin from Dayglo Abortions
Paul Leary from Butthole Surfers
Greg Sage from The Wipers
Rick Agnew from Adolescents

Others that rip are Joe King of The Queers and Bone of the Real Mckenzies

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra 09-23-2011 06:48 PM

Dr. Know (guitarist) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

/\ this guy


Buzzov*en 09-23-2011 07:27 PM

Chris Rest
Barry Ward





east bay ray



greg ginn


Alfred 09-23-2011 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra (Post 1105932)

Yes, he is probably my favorite single guitarist in punk.

Fucked Up, however, are my favorite punk band as far as guitar goes. They have 3 guitarists (plus a bassist) which produces an almost shoegazy guitar tone. They are so far above every other punk band in this regard.




Buzzov*en 09-23-2011 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Alfred (Post 1105967)
Yes, he is probably my favorite single guitarist in punk.

Fucked Up, however, are my favorite punk band as far as guitar goes. They have 3 guitarists (plus a bassist) which produces an almost shoegazy guitar tone. They are so far above every other punk band in this regard.




They are far above every punk band in guitar playing? hell no bro. I'd say RKL has most if not every punk band beat when it comes to guitar playing and musicianship.

Howard the Duck 09-24-2011 10:28 AM

Johnny Ramone



no punk band can pull off a pseudo-country ballad so convincingly

BastardofYoung 09-25-2011 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Crionics (Post 1105645)
Off the top of my head.
The Cretin from Dayglo Abortions
Paul Leary from Butthole Surfers
Greg Sage from The Wipers
Rick Agnew from Adolescents

Others that rip are Joe King of The Queers and Bone of the Real Mckenzies

I like you.... Murray is amazing.

but you left off Andy Kerr, so gotta deduct some cool points for that.


BastardofYoung 09-25-2011 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Il Duce (Post 1106062)
Johnny Ramone



no punk band can pull off a pseudo-country ballad so convincingly

http://images.pricerunner.com/produc...-of-Excess.jpg

Alfred 09-25-2011 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Buzzov*en (Post 1105971)
They are far above every punk band in guitar playing? hell no bro. I'd say RKL has most if not every punk band beat when it comes to guitar playing and musicianship.

I'm not talking about musicianship or technicality, I'm talking about their tone and how unique their guitars sound.

bob. 09-25-2011 09:18 AM

to bad GG was a complete fucking idiot

thank you for mention NoMeansNo.....they really are a bit stand out when it comes to punk music.....and a seriously often underrated band

Buzzov*en 09-25-2011 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Alfred (Post 1106268)
I'm not talking about musicianship or technicality, I'm talking about their tone and how unique their guitars sound.

I still say no.

Alfred 09-25-2011 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzzov*en (Post 1106400)
I still say no.

Okay, and that's fine, but tone-wise, what other punk band is comparable to F*cked Up?

Buzzov*en 09-25-2011 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Alfred (Post 1106433)
Okay, and that's fine, but tone-wise, what other punk band is comparable to F*cked Up?

Punk bands that have better guitar tone? Sex Pistols, TSOL, Black Flag, OFF!, RKL, Dr Know, Bad Brains, Ceremony, and Dead Kennedys.

Alfred 09-25-2011 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzzov*en (Post 1106443)
Punk bands that have better guitar tone? Sex Pistols, TSOL, Black Flag, OFF!, RKL, Dr Know, Bad Brains, Ceremony, and Dead Kennedys.

I definitely disagree on all of those, except for perhaps Dead Kennedys or Bad Brains. I can't say I get overly excited about the rest. Like OFF!? Really? Don't get me wrong, I like their "First Four EPs" compilation a lot, but there is nothing new or overly special about them, let alone their guitar tone.

Buzzov*en 09-25-2011 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Alfred (Post 1106539)
I definitely disagree on all of those, except for perhaps Dead Kennedys or Bad Brains. I can't say I get overly excited about the rest. Like OFF!? Really? Don't get me wrong, I like their "First Four EPs" compilation a lot, but there is nothing new or overly special about them, let alone their guitar tone.

Are we saying something new or something better? Because if new obviously none of them are. If we are talking about better I find them all to be better than ****ed Up's.

Crionics 09-26-2011 02:17 PM

I'm in agreement pretty much here.
 
I love ****ed up, but I just saw them shortly before the Butthole Surfers show at the Richshaw in Van, and I gotta say the Buttholes were the standouts by far. I stand by my conviction that Paul Leary is one of the best/original guitarists in the world. I love Nomeansno and the last time I saw them (a few weeks ago) was one of the best sets I've ever seen them do. I suppose I should have included Spike Cassidy of DRI. I just saw them in Seattle.
I recommend the San Fran band HIGHTOWER to all who are interested in punk/space rock/thrash music. They seriously rock.

Alfred 09-26-2011 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzzov*en (Post 1106574)
Are we saying something new or something better? Because if new obviously none of them are. If we are talking about better I find them all to be better than ****ed Up's.

Better, and I personally find the rest of them to be a lot less tonally exciting (save for DK and Bad Brains).

FRED HALE SR. 09-28-2011 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Alfred (Post 1106746)
Better, and I personally find the rest of them to be a lot less tonally exciting (save for DK and Bad Brains).

Tony Roberts. Raw, blistering, ear shattering noise. Beautiful.

http://www.google.com/url?url=http:/...R8ZoWA&cad=rja

Also Steve Lucas. Great riffs for a great band. The Subhumans get alot of flack because seemingly everybody likes them. I find The Day the country died to be one of the best punk albums of all time.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sourc...Pcdl6w&cad=rja

anticipation 09-28-2011 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Alfred (Post 1106746)
Better, and I personally find the rest of them to be a lot less tonally exciting (save for DK and Bad Brains).

Black Flag > ****ed Up

basically if you don't agree then your punk opinion doesn't really count for much, and to say that Mike Haliechuk is tonally superior to Greg Ginn is idiotic on a galactic level.

as for who i think is brilliant
Johnny Genzale (Thunders)
Tom Verlaine
Fred "Sonic" Smith
Joe Mellor (Strummer)
Brian James
Guy Picciotto

BastardofYoung 09-28-2011 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by anticipation (Post 1107320)
Black Flag > ****ed Up

basically if you don't agree then your punk opinion doesn't really count for much, and to say that Mike Haliechuk is tonally superior to Greg Ginn is idiotic on a galactic level....

..... okay.

GravitySlips 09-28-2011 01:53 PM

Greg Sage is the first name that comes to mind when I think of the best punk guitarists.

Alfred 09-28-2011 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by anticipation (Post 1107320)
Black Flag > ****ed Up

basically if you don't agree then your punk opinion doesn't really count for much, and to say that Mike Haliechuk is tonally superior to Greg Ginn is idiotic on a galactic level.

...

Do I even need to say anything about this?

FRED HALE SR. 09-28-2011 01:56 PM

[QUOTE=anticipation;1107320]Black Flag > ****ed Up

basically if you don't agree then your punk opinion doesn't really count for much, and to say that Mike Haliechuk is tonally superior to Greg Ginn is idiotic on a galactic level.

QFT

BastardofYoung 09-28-2011 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Alfred (Post 1107334)
...

Do I even need to say anything about this?

no, your punk opinion doesn't count. lulz.

Alfred 09-28-2011 02:05 PM

Apparently not.

Like what am I supposed to do - lie and pretend that I like Black Flag more just because everyone else does? We're talking about guitar tone anyways, not the overall quality or importance of bands.

FRED HALE SR. 09-28-2011 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Alfred (Post 1107339)
Apparently not.

Like what am I supposed to do - lie and pretend that I like Black Flag more just because everyone else does? We're talking about guitar tone anyways, not the overall quality or importance of bands.

Maybe you can just apologize and we can move on. :shycouch:

BastardofYoung 09-28-2011 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Alfred (Post 1107339)
Apparently not.

Like what am I supposed to do - lie and pretend that I like Black Flag more just because everyone else does? We're talking about guitar tone anyways, not the overall quality or importance of bands.

Doesn't matter what you do now, your punk rock opinion doesn't really count anyways. Just hang your head in shame and live your days knowing you suck in the eyes of the professional punks.

anticipation 09-28-2011 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Alfred (Post 1107339)
Apparently not.

Like what am I supposed to do - lie and pretend that I like Black Flag more just because everyone else does? We're talking about guitar tone anyways, not the overall quality or importance of bands.

like, defend your position? instead of letting one person's opinion completely derail a thread, why don't you explain why you think FU's "guitar tone", which I'm assuming isn't a product of talent or creativity but rather how their equipment performs, is superior to Black Flag's? I'm not trying to be elitist, but that is such a ridiculous thing to claim and then run away when someone challenges it.

FRED HALE SR. 09-28-2011 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BastardofYoung (Post 1107344)
Doesn't matter what you do now, your punk rock opinion doesn't really count anyways. Just hang your head in shame and live your days knowing you suck in the eyes of the professional punks.

Yeah don't have a nervous break down, maybe go get a six pack and rise above.

BastardofYoung 09-28-2011 02:18 PM

Hold on, just realised I am not clocked in. Anyways TV party in room 13.

BastardofYoung 09-28-2011 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by anticipation (Post 1107347)
which I'm assuming isn't a product of talent or creativity but rather how their equipment performs.

...........

FRED HALE SR. 09-28-2011 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by anticipation (Post 1107347)
like, defend your position? instead of letting one person's opinion completely derail a thread, why don't you explain why you think FU's "guitar tone", which I'm assuming isn't a product of talent or creativity but rather how their equipment performs, is superior to Black Flag's? I'm not trying to be elitist, but that is such a ridiculous thing to claim and then run away when someone challenges it.

Pretty valid point there. I think the tone of Greg Ginn is what makes the BF sound so powerful.

Alfred 09-28-2011 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by anticipation (Post 1107347)
like, defend your position? instead of letting one person's opinion completely derail a thread, why don't you explain why you think FU's "guitar tone", which I'm assuming isn't a product of talent or creativity but rather how their equipment performs, is superior to Black Flag's? I'm not trying to be elitist, but that is such a ridiculous thing to claim and then run away when someone challenges it.

I stated why I feel their guitar tone is better (than that of other punk bands) in my original post.

But if you didn't see that, here's why I like the sound of their guitars more than Black Flag: multiple layers of bright, warm guitar will always be my preference over what I feel to be a, while good, fairly standard punk tone.

Sure, I guess that's how their equipment performs, what punk band doesn't use effects? I mean, if that's what makes your music more appealing, go for it.

Now, as far as old-fashioned technical ability and writing goes, I will admit that Greg Ginn is a superior guitar player.

FRED HALE SR. 09-28-2011 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Alfred (Post 1107359)
I stated why I feel their guitar tone is better (than that of other punk bands) in my original post.

But if you didn't see that, here's why I like the sound of their guitars more than Black Flag: multiple layers of bright, warm guitar will always be my preference over what I feel to be a, while good, fairly standard punk tone.

Sure, I guess that's how their equipment performs, what punk band doesn't use effects? I mean, if that's what makes your music more appealing, go for it.

Now, as far as old-fashioned technical ability and writing goes, I will admit that Greg Ginn is a superior guitar player.

I understand your point now. I prefer the layered effect of BF myself, but now I understand where you are coming from.

Howard the Duck 09-28-2011 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by anticipation (Post 1107347)
like, defend your position? instead of letting one person's opinion completely derail a thread, why don't you explain why you think FU's "guitar tone", which I'm assuming isn't a product of talent or creativity but rather how their equipment performs, is superior to Black Flag's? I'm not trying to be elitist, but that is such a ridiculous thing to claim and then run away when someone challenges it.

when playing punk, i find the best guitars with the best sound are those plasticky ones from china

also china-made amps

Electrophonic Tonic 09-28-2011 10:31 PM

Fred "Sonic" Smith & Wayne Kramer

Buzzov*en 09-29-2011 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Electrophonic Tonic (Post 1107503)
Fred "Sonic" Smith & Wayne Kramer

Well they aren't really punk.

FRED HALE SR. 09-30-2011 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Buzzov*en (Post 1107704)
Well they aren't really punk.

I disagree. MC5 was punk rock in the 60's and influenced hundreds of bands. They were so influential that members from other genres were influenced by them including Eddie Van Halen.

Electrophonic Tonic 09-30-2011 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzzov*en (Post 1107704)
Well they aren't really punk.

I disagree as well. Maybe the music wasn't the purest form of punk, but the attitude was most definitely punk. True rebels who didn't give a fudge.

Being involved with the White Panther Party > Being assembled/manufactured by a guy who owned a fetish sex shop

BastardofYoung 09-30-2011 09:35 PM

While I can see that, at the same time can you call David Allen Coe punk, being a rebel who doesn't give a fook? Granted his music wouldn't be seen as punk like MC5 can, but he is essentially in the same box in his own right.


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