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Old 09-28-2011, 03:18 PM   #31 (permalink)
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which I'm assuming isn't a product of talent or creativity but rather how their equipment performs.
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Old 09-28-2011, 03:23 PM   #32 (permalink)
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like, defend your position? instead of letting one person's opinion completely derail a thread, why don't you explain why you think FU's "guitar tone", which I'm assuming isn't a product of talent or creativity but rather how their equipment performs, is superior to Black Flag's? I'm not trying to be elitist, but that is such a ridiculous thing to claim and then run away when someone challenges it.
Pretty valid point there. I think the tone of Greg Ginn is what makes the BF sound so powerful.
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Old 09-28-2011, 03:36 PM   #33 (permalink)
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like, defend your position? instead of letting one person's opinion completely derail a thread, why don't you explain why you think FU's "guitar tone", which I'm assuming isn't a product of talent or creativity but rather how their equipment performs, is superior to Black Flag's? I'm not trying to be elitist, but that is such a ridiculous thing to claim and then run away when someone challenges it.
I stated why I feel their guitar tone is better (than that of other punk bands) in my original post.

But if you didn't see that, here's why I like the sound of their guitars more than Black Flag: multiple layers of bright, warm guitar will always be my preference over what I feel to be a, while good, fairly standard punk tone.

Sure, I guess that's how their equipment performs, what punk band doesn't use effects? I mean, if that's what makes your music more appealing, go for it.

Now, as far as old-fashioned technical ability and writing goes, I will admit that Greg Ginn is a superior guitar player.
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Old 09-28-2011, 03:40 PM   #34 (permalink)
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I stated why I feel their guitar tone is better (than that of other punk bands) in my original post.

But if you didn't see that, here's why I like the sound of their guitars more than Black Flag: multiple layers of bright, warm guitar will always be my preference over what I feel to be a, while good, fairly standard punk tone.

Sure, I guess that's how their equipment performs, what punk band doesn't use effects? I mean, if that's what makes your music more appealing, go for it.

Now, as far as old-fashioned technical ability and writing goes, I will admit that Greg Ginn is a superior guitar player.
I understand your point now. I prefer the layered effect of BF myself, but now I understand where you are coming from.
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Old 09-28-2011, 10:46 PM   #35 (permalink)
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like, defend your position? instead of letting one person's opinion completely derail a thread, why don't you explain why you think FU's "guitar tone", which I'm assuming isn't a product of talent or creativity but rather how their equipment performs, is superior to Black Flag's? I'm not trying to be elitist, but that is such a ridiculous thing to claim and then run away when someone challenges it.
when playing punk, i find the best guitars with the best sound are those plasticky ones from china

also china-made amps
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Well they aren't really punk.
I disagree. MC5 was punk rock in the 60's and influenced hundreds of bands. They were so influential that members from other genres were influenced by them including Eddie Van Halen.
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I disagree as well. Maybe the music wasn't the purest form of punk, but the attitude was most definitely punk. True rebels who didn't give a fudge.

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While I can see that, at the same time can you call David Allen Coe punk, being a rebel who doesn't give a fook? Granted his music wouldn't be seen as punk like MC5 can, but he is essentially in the same box in his own right.
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