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Old 04-20-2011, 09:27 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Seriously? I'd say the opposite; Folk Punk to me is nothing more than priveleged kids pretending their fighting for the oppressed because they're bored and overly sheltered. Really, to me, folk has a definite economic and cultural dimension; and priveleged kids from the suburbs playing music and using subcultural symbolism most relevant to other priveleged kids thats about making-pretend Wobbly politics are still relevant... that **** doesn't apply. At all.

There is, after all, a definite reason truckers and farmers listen to Merle Haggard and not The Bike is a Pipe Bomb.
I would point out how stupid you're generalization about folk-punk is, but then again, you're the guy who thinks that the Nazi band Screwdriver is the best band ever. And is probably a troll.


For those of you who really want to know, many members of folk-punk bands are actual grown adults, are from the country, and are not white (...okay, so most of them are white, but not all! The singer from Defiance Ohio isn't, and who knows who else).
And the reason that truckers don't listen to THIS Bike is a Pipe Bomb, not "The Bike is a Pipe Bomb", is that truckers don't generally like punk. And also most of them probably don't even know who TBIAPB is.

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Old 04-21-2011, 07:58 PM   #22 (permalink)
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For those of you who really want to know, many members of folk-punk bands are actual grown adults, are from the country, and are not white (...okay, so most of them are white, but not all! The singer from Defiance Ohio isn't, and who knows who else).
bwahahahha!

BLACK PEOPLE LOVE FOLK PUNK!

Really, that reaction is too hilarious. I love listening to white kids play music about smashing racism, at a concert attended by 95%+ white kids.... it's funny ****. "LOOK, A MINORITY! VINDICATION!"

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And the reason that truckers don't listen to THIS Bike is a Pipe Bomb, not "The Bike is a Pipe Bomb", is that truckers don't generally like punk. And also most of them probably don't even know who TBIAPB is.
So, are you claiming that the reason why most blue collar workers don't listen to punk bands.... is because they don't like punk? Or are you saying that blue collar workers tend to lack the income security that allows for prodigious amounts of time wasted on researching music subcultures?
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Old 04-21-2011, 08:03 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Sure, but subculture=/=genre.
In this case, it really does.
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In this case, it really does.
No. It doesn't.
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Old 04-23-2011, 07:33 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Here's a post that has nothing to do with the pointless arguing that has been going on in this thread.

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Old 04-23-2011, 11:06 PM   #26 (permalink)
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anyone a fan of foot ox ? fantastic stuff. folk punk thats too focused on political themes is a bore to listen too. just love the easy to sing a long folk punk songs, i think its what makes the genre so appealing.
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I love the Pogues but I thought this was folk punk..



at least what we call it here in 'murica. More like stuff Will Oldham pioneered than the Pogues did and definitely more than Billy Bragg.
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bwahahahha!

BLACK PEOPLE LOVE FOLK PUNK!

Really, that reaction is too hilarious. I love listening to white kids play music about smashing racism, at a concert attended by 95%+ white kids.... it's funny ****. "LOOK, A MINORITY! VINDICATION!"



So, are you claiming that the reason why most blue collar workers don't listen to punk bands.... is because they don't like punk? Or are you saying that blue collar workers tend to lack the income security that allows for prodigious amounts of time wasted on researching music subcultures?
Folk Punk tends to be the domain of two groups: Middle class people and tramps. I know this because I've been to folk punk concerts. I can attest that at least a half of the people in the crowd are below the poverty line, with about a third of the crowd being tramps.

As far as race goes, I'M NOT WHITE. If anybody complains about white people crowding out shows, it should be me, not you, who are a white supremacist.














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Ok, let's get something straight: "tramps" are not tramps when they do so voluntarily, and are hopping trains & hithchiking because it's neat and they want adventure. They are not tramps when they have mommy and daddy to fall back on. And you certainly do not qualify as poor (as far as one can be poor in the USA) when you have your parents health insurance to fall back on. 90%+ "tramps" that go to Folk punk shows fall into the above categories; the remainder tend to be some combination of junkies, alcoholics and tweakers. Good crowd, that.

Really, it's no accident that you're more likely to find folk punk fans at a 30k+/per annum university than a community college. It's a genre for rich kids dressing down.

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As far as race goes, I'M NOT WHITE. If anybody complains about white people crowding out shows, it should be me, not you, who are a white supremacist.
Why would you complain? Clearly it's a white form of music; it was originated by white musicians, continues to be dominated by white musicians, and draws upon white cultural history. What I find annoying about it is the blatantly disingenuous nature of the lyrics and subculture.
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I love the Pogues but I thought this was folk punk..



at least what we call it here in 'murica. More like stuff Will Oldham pioneered than the Pogues did and definitely more than Billy Bragg.
Agree with both.

But...damn Aesop Rock did a track with Kimya Dawson. Actually they've been performing live together at a few different gigs is more like it, but with fresh material. It's a fantastic mashup, and Aesop on a similar but different level.

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