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Old 03-16-2011, 07:49 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm just curious how you guys would define punk. Is it a certain sound? It is an attitude? What makes a band a true punk band? I see people debating it a lot on YouTube and everyone seems to have their own opinion.
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Old 03-16-2011, 10:07 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Punk can be put down to the era around 1974-1982, but the sorts of personalities that were involved can define what it was. To be honest I feel that, like any genre, it can be relevent & contemperry if used in a personal context! The DIY aspect was an obvious defining element & many underground music movements have taken from that since. As I tell my friends all the time, an obvious decendent of punk, still in the mainstream, is indie. As early as the late 70's/early 80's, there were band being called "Indie Guitar" or "Indie Rock" bands, most of which started off as punk bands!
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Punk started as a derogatory word for Indy bands from snobby rock critics. Joke is, they're the prison bitches of the industry. So, really, in sheer technicality Punk = Indie.
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something that closely resembles to being emo?
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Old 03-19-2011, 10:18 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Punk started as a derogatory word for Indy bands from snobby rock critics. Joke is, they're the prison bitches of the industry. So, really, in sheer technicality Punk = Indie.
Who is the prison bitch of the industry? Rock critics, or punks and indies?

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something that closely resembles to being emo?
Is this a statement or a question?
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Who is the prison bitch of the industry? Rock critics, or punks and indies?



Is this a statement or a question?
sort of kind a both
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Old 03-21-2011, 10:47 PM   #7 (permalink)
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When speaking of music genres, it's helpful to keep in mind that the classifications are imperfect. How any particular band is classified is a reflection not just of their actual musical traits but how those traits are percieved, meaning what is and isn't punk can be subjective. It can not be ignored that the issue of subjectivity seems to be of greater concern as the punk genre ages and subgenres multiply. So, I'd say the best approach is a negative one; instead of focusing on the traits punk has, focus on the traits it lacks.

Anyways, traits punk bands tend to exhibit: a lack of formal music education, spontaneity, and a reactionary attitude in regards to prevailing popular music trends.
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Old 03-25-2011, 10:39 AM   #8 (permalink)
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People who got frustrated over playing an instrument so they played simplistic and easy music out of anger.
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Fast, aggressive music usually simple and to the point that shows extreme emotion. Not the best way to describe it. I'm sure everyone on here is aware and understands punk music when they hear it. But, that's what comes to my mind.
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Who is the prison bitch of the industry? Rock critics, or punks and indies?
Rock critics used it as a derogatory term for DIY acts. Like 'Krautrock'. I'm not saying anything is the prison bitch. The word 'punk' started as what they call bitches in prison.
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I think the term punk can be applied to music and the attitude. I mean johnny cash did things his own way, so he was a Punk figure, but his music wasn't punk. Then you have the Ramones playing fast and loud music, which was called punk. But I don't think they would have been bad people to hang out with, and wouldn't have that punk attitude about them. They just wanted to play music their own way, and hope people enjoyed it. Just a few quick thoughts right now. Probably could expand more, but hoping to see what other people answer.
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