FRED HALE SR.

I understand the concept of his lyric writing that doesn't make it any less offensive being written in third person. I don't know one muslim who would not be aghast after hearing that song. That was my point, what is offensive to one person may not be to another, regardless of the reasoning behind the lyrics.

And I don't think there is a difference in the lyrics honestly, they are preaching about hate of another race regardless of whether they find it humorous.

Buzzov*en

One is meant to actually spread hate while the other is written through a character. What is there not to understand? One is meant to spread hate while the other is not and is simply written as a joke and to piss people off.

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FRED HALE SR.

They both spread hate is my point. Regardless of whether they find it funny, muslims don't find it funny. The only real point i'm trying to make here is there is plenty of hate spread throughout music that goes unnoticed while bands like Skrewdriver get blackballed for the exact same thing. In no way do i condone the aryan nations beliefs but there are plenty of other people doing what they are doing and labeling it something else entirely. Are we through yet, jesus man stop already.

Buzzov*en

Nah I'm not. I see a difference. If someone gets offended by a joke that is meant nothing more than a joke than they need thicker skin. If they get offended by actual racism that is meant to spread hate and hurt that is understandable.

Skrewdriver is nothing like SOD IMO. SOD had a FEW (if that maybe even one. Speak English or die) songs that were meant as jokes while Skrewdriver's catolog (besides their first album) was pure hate for anyone but whites.

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hip hop bunny hop

BuzzOvens argument is: the biography of any particular artist trumps the substance of said artist's work, and that intent trumps content.

Oscar Wilde said biography is the lowest form of criticism. I, and most anyone else who has suffered the ordeals of freshmen art school courses, would agree.

Buzzov*en

My criticism of this band has to do with what they sing about or is that too hard for someone like yourself to grasp? Well nvm you are a racist as well so you are obviously blind to what they are about since you agree with them.

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hip hop bunny hop

...and then you said;

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These statements are contradictory.

Buzzov*en

No they are not. They only are to racist individuals who do not see the difference and try to equate the two when clearly there is a difference. One is about spreading hate because of their beliefs while the other is written through a character as a joke to piss people off. That is not contradcitory to my judging of a racist piece of **** band who actually believe their own white power ****.

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someonecompletelyrandom

I've not heard SOD but from what I've read from Buzz it sounds like those lyrics were ironic or satirical. Meant to actually promote the opposite of what Skrewdriver promotes.

But again, don't know the band. Just saying.

Engine

While definitely a joke (unlike Skrewdriver), I think the only thing that SOD was promoting was to fuck around and mock everything and everybody. They weren't a particularly anti-racist band, they just wanted to joke in the most shocking manner they could muster. I do like SOD, btw. Speak English or Die is a really good album.

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