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James 02-02-2011 04:14 PM

Silver Guns To Drip Old Blood:The Punk Album Club
 

Punk is often doesn't get credit as a proper, intelligent genre and it's seen as juvenile and sloppy. But of course it is more than that, punk is one of the most varied genres around, punk is the genre I go to when I want to think but also where I go when I want fun. Punk encourages a way of life but at the same time tells you to throw it all away and not give a sh*t about anything. It tells you what to do, and you enjoy it. To quote Iggy Pop:

"I'll tell you about punk rock. Punk rock is a word used by dilletantes and heartless manipulators about music that takes up the energies and the bodies and the hearts and the souls and the time and the minds of young men who give what they have to it, and give everything they have to it. And it's a term that's based on contempt. It's a term that's based in fashion, style, elitism, satanism and everything that's rotten about rock'n'roll.

"I don't know Johnny Rotten but I'm sure he puts as much blood and sweat into what he does as Sigmund Freud did. You see, what sounds to you like a big load of trashy old noise is in fact the brilliant music of a genius, myself. And that music is so powerful that it's quite beyond my control and when I'm in the grips of it I don't feel pleasure and I don't feel pain, either physically or emotionally. Do you understand what I'm talking about? Have you ever felt like that? When you just couldn't feel anything, and you don't want to either. You know, like that?"



It's been my favourite genre for a while, it was Indie for a small period and then I started to branch out into the subgenres. Then I was bought. Punk has sounds at both sides of the spectrum, sloppy and vile Crust Punk to beautiful and complex, ethereal Post-Punk. But it all has something in common, a sense of youth and lack of worry which can be described by the word Punk. After all, if there was a word for it, why would the music exist?

Punk took it's biggest influence in sound from the garage rock bands of the 60s such as The Stooges, Motor City Five and The Sonics. In the late 70s, Punk was properly born with bands like The Clash, The Sex Pistols, Television and The Damned originating the genre and having a huge influence worldwide. Hundreds of Punk bands formed from hearing the Sex Pistols, often self producing creating the DIY sound Punk is known for today.

Throughout the 80s the punk sound developed, creating fully formed subgenres such as Post-Punk, Hardcore Punk, Folk Punk, Anarchopunk, Crust Punk, Emo, Pop-Punk, Psychobilly and Ska Punk. Incorparating influences from counrty, prog, metal and reggae.

In the nineties, punk fell out of fashion but in the process created more punk subgenres and movements. Like Grunge, Riot Grrrl and Post-Hardcore. From then up until now, Punk is pretty far removed from the maintream, but it still has a cult following and punk related music is released to this day.

This club will run like all of the other clubs, post your recommended album in here with a little writeup explaining what it sounds like. After we have gathered enough nominations we will make a poll to vote for which album will be discussed. The winning album will have a thread made and links will be available, then we will hopefully generate discussion. The process will be repeated weekly. Please, suggest some albums.



bob. 02-02-2011 04:45 PM

i'll start it up :)

Christ On A Crutch - Crime Pays When Pigs Die (1991)

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_NPRQxVBLU3...600/cnra23.jpg

late 80s early 90s ferocious hardcore punk from Seattle.....seriously fast and angry beyond belief....played well with a little bit of fun mixed in it....somewhat political lyrics but in no way preachy....

edit....just re-listened to the album....actually there are very political lyrics but not necessarily anarchist...

Queen Boo 02-02-2011 06:51 PM

Sounds fun.

Engine 02-02-2011 07:35 PM

Yeah, I'll play.
I nominate Something Better Change by D.O.A. (1980)

http://static.rateyourmusic.com/albu...c618/33862.jpg

It was their first album and I've never listened to it so this is a selfish nomination. I neglected this band for a long time but rumor has it that they coined the term 'hardcore' as it relates to Punk with their album entitled Hardcore '81. They're liberal punks from the west coast of Canada. Pretty legendary, but I never paid attention to them at all until I watched the Don Letts' Punk: Attitude documentary.

bob. 02-02-2011 07:51 PM

yeah :)

that is such a good album.....

Charlemagne 02-02-2011 08:18 PM

I'll nominate one too.

Abe Froman - Abe Froman (1999)
http://www.harlanrecords.org/images/IPabe12inLRG.png

Really gritty basement sounding punk jams. They kind of lean on the pop-punk scale a little bit, but they still are one of the best Plan-It-X punk acts, pretty anarchist lyrics but not too over the top.

ThePhanastasio 02-02-2011 10:39 PM

Very cool idea! I'll actually contribute an album I really enjoy:

The Connie Dungs
Eternal Bad Luck Charm
(2000)

http://www.mutantpop.com/SLEEVES/COVER-MP-520.gif

Formed by by Brandon Tussey (Brandon Dung) and brothers Wayne (Wayne Sphincter) and Chris (Chris Colostomy) Griffith, The Connie Dungs are a punk band from KY. They were on the (now defunct) Mutant Pop Records, and released five full length albums, and numerous EPs. This, their final studio album, has to be my favorite. It's nothing groundbreaking or revolutionary, but it's legitimately one of the most pumpin' albums I've listened to. There's a lot of Ramones influence on it, and it can be described as being on the "poppier" edge of punk. It is, however, completely full of the attitude punk music is typically known for, and it's a lot of fun to listen to.

Mrd00d 02-03-2011 02:42 AM

I was going to abstain because I have a lot on my plate, but if I get more organized, which I can, I can tackle yet another club.

I'm surprised there aren't a lot more suggestions for poll. I have one, but I'd gather some info and post it later me thinks...

James 02-03-2011 02:48 AM

4 interesting albums, haven't heard any of them.

Anyway, I nominate.
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51QJSTZWEJL.jpg
The New Christs-Distemper
Fun and powerful music with Garage Punk and Post-Punk elements. I always felt this band were very underrated, with Rob Younger from Radio Birdman at the wings(teehee) this band could have been a lot bigger. Charlie Owen is a really good guitarist too. Songs vary from fun little rock and roll numbers to sad emotional tunes.

djchameleon 02-03-2011 04:06 AM

this is one of the two punk albums I have actually listened to but I will help out with nominations.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_YidUzsLr9B...w/s400/TSB.jpg

Tsunami Bomb - The Invasion from Within!

Tsunami Bomb was a punk rock band from Petaluma, California, They broke up in 05. They are probably more pop punk but lovely nonetheless. Tsunami Bomb's original lineup consisted of 5 people, including a female keyboard player named Oobliette Sparks who also contributed vocals. They have had so many lineup changes that's it is straight up stupid and I won't go into all that detail but yeah.

Mrd00d 02-03-2011 04:36 AM

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...oNf9QKcVvgw9lW

Dave Dub & the Sutter Cain Gang's Mind Police

Quote:

"Mind Police" is an album that can be experienced in under a half hour, and that's by design. Dave Dub & The Sutter Cain Gang did not record a single song here longer than three minutes and nine seconds, and half of them are actually 2:15 or less. The reason for these brief adrenaline bursts of music is simple - rapper Dub and his production team of JtheSarge and Piet Damolen envisioned this album as "a punk rock hip-hop project." One can't fault them for truth in advertising - that's exactly what "Mind Police" is. If you ever listened to a seminal punk album (that doesn't mean punk pop crossover like Green Day or No Doubt) it's exactly like this release - and not too far from what the early/obscure Beastie Boys songs sound like either.

Dub is the product of a California scene that encourages experimentation, both musically and pharmaceutically, and by his own admission he's done plenty of both since the 1990's. If you have Peanut Butter Wolf's "My Vinyl Weighs a Ton" you may know of him, but that was over a decade ago. He dropped so far off the radar he couldn't even be found with sonar. Like many troubled musicians, his once recreational excesses became full-time pursuits, and artistic output became secondary to staying comfortably numb. Confident he has now dealt with his demons and made peace with them, he has enlisted the help of JtheSarge, Myka 9 and their M9 Entertainment label to put his musical vision back on the map. Not surprisingly both J and 9 make cameos on "Mind Police" on the song "I Need It," one of the album's most intense (and also a bit incomprehensible) tracks.

As the old saying goes though let's get down to brass tacks, and they are particularly sharp and pointy here. I respect Dave Dub's commitment to make punk rock hip-hop his own way, and his label's commitment to supporting and producing it that way. Occasionally this results in songs that remind me a little bit of Ice-T's band Bodycount, most notably on the title track of "Mind Police" and the Cage-like "No Name." Having respect for an artist doesn't always mean enjoying their musical output though - see Camu Tao's "King of Hearts" for example. To be honest there's a very VERY narrow subset of today's rap audience that's going to appreciate songs like "Hitler's Nightmare" and "Robo Christ." If you like incredibly fast punk rock bass guitar and drums and someone with a relatively monotone vocal chord rapping just as fast over them "Mind Police" is your cup of tea. This writer finds the taste a little too acrid and bitter to enjoy the drink. There's a place for punk rock hip-hop in this world, and if you like early 1980's Beastie Boys, you're in that place. 30 minutes of it is more than enough for me.
http://www.rapreviews.com/archive/20...indpolice.html

Not a gleaming review, but I nominate this album for being so different and because I don't come down so harshly on the album cuz I ... fell into their demographic listener. I'm joining the club to learn, but I think this is a fairly slept on album and believe a few here may enjoy it. Maybe...
:afro:


James 02-05-2011 10:19 AM

Poll added.

dankrsta 02-05-2011 11:07 AM

I'm lacking some essential punk, so I'm gonna follow this club. Of all the nominations I've only heard of D.O.A and I don't even remember if I ever actually heard the music.

James 02-05-2011 01:21 PM

Four way tie, this aint good. We need more votes.

djchameleon 02-05-2011 01:37 PM

they will come in time....just give it a few.

Alfred 02-06-2011 04:44 PM

Oh man, you know I'm down with this club.

jackhammer 02-07-2011 06:45 PM

Well someone had better send me a couple of albums from that list as I don't know any of them apart from one. I will say that I am dubious of albums post 1990 with a PUNK tag. They had better be damn good.

I have a few recs for the next round.

James 02-08-2011 12:32 AM

DOA wins and I shall make a thread for the album later. I'm not happy with people voting for their own nominations though.

ThePhanastasio 02-08-2011 12:59 AM

I didn't vote for my own nomination!

And off to try to find the winning album right now to listen to.

djchameleon 02-08-2011 02:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James (Post 1000193)
DOA wins and I shall make a thread for the album later. I'm not happy with people voting for their own nominations though.

there is nothing wrong with voting for your own nominations I don't see why so picky about it.

James 02-08-2011 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1000213)
there is nothing wrong with voting for your own nominations I don't see why so picky about it.

I think it's unfair and ruins the point of the thread tbh.

Ps-I have a link if anyone needs help.

Alfred 02-08-2011 08:59 PM

hit me up with that link please :)

Engine 02-08-2011 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James (Post 1000379)
I think it's unfair and ruins the point of the thread tbh.

Ps-I have a link if anyone needs help.

I voted for my own nomination. I've never even heard the album before.
Sorry to fuck up your thread.

James 02-09-2011 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Engine (Post 1000662)
I voted for my own nomination. I've never even heard the album before.
Sorry to fuck up your thread.

That's fair then. I just meant people voting for albums they know really well when it's supposed to be about finding and discussing new music.

djchameleon 02-09-2011 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James (Post 1000684)
That's fair then. I just meant people voting for albums they know really well when it's supposed to be about finding and discussing new music.

the one I nominated I don't know it that well but I guess I see your point.

James 02-10-2011 09:37 AM

http://www.musicbanter.com/punk/5432...on-thread.html

C'MON
And if you wish to nominate something new. Go ahead.

James 02-15-2011 06:22 AM

I will do a new nomination as we have a distinct lack at the moment, which means I have two albums in the poll but whatev. That doesn't matter.
The Durutti Column-LC

A Post-Punk band with a big career and very experimental sound. I had heard a lot about the band but hadn't listened until I obtained a song of theirs on a compilation yesterday, got this album staright after that. It's mostly instrumental, with some vocals. Very complex music, dream poppish as well as Post-Punk. Amazingly unique and overlooked.

dankrsta 02-15-2011 07:05 AM

^^That's very interesting, sounds like something I'd love. So we can nominate post-punk as well? If so, I have a lot on my mind.

James 02-15-2011 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dankrsta (Post 1004927)
^^That's very interesting, sounds like something I'd love. So we can nominate post-punk as well? If so, I have a lot on my mind.

Anything Punk related.

jackhammer 02-15-2011 06:10 PM

Durutti Column are one of my fave bands but as far removed from the Punk sound as you could think.

Not a good choice in the context of this thread I am afraid :(

djchameleon 02-15-2011 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 1005328)
Durutti Column are one of my fave bands but as far removed from the Punk sound as you could think.

Not a good choice in the context of this thread I am afraid :(

well I thought this was anything Punk related as James stated. Not really like a introduction/education to Punk.

Alfred 02-15-2011 07:50 PM

ugh, please don't let this turn into a big post-punk exchange :(

Queen Boo 02-15-2011 08:13 PM

The poll's still up so I assume you haven't decided what I'm to download yet.
Thats alright, I'll wait.

Charlemagne 02-15-2011 08:43 PM

Since we're doing dreamy post punk stuff...I'll go to another spectrum. The Saddest Landscape.

The Saddest Landscape
- Lift Your Burdens High For This Is Where We Cross
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/300x300/10573113.jpg

By far one of the most powerful and emotional albums I've ever heard, it's got wonderful balance between the chaotic and calm and just about the most emotional vocals I've ever heard from a band of this style.

James 02-16-2011 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 1005328)
Durutti Column are one of my fave bands but as far removed from the Punk sound as you could think.

Not a good choice in the context of this thread I am afraid :(

As djchameleon said, they are still a punk related band and this thread has very loose rules. Anything goes. It's not like we're making a beginners mix or anything, we're just sharing music between fans.

Alfred 02-16-2011 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlemagne (Post 1005451)
Since we're doing dreamy post punk stuff...I'll go to another spectrum. The Saddest Landscape.

The Saddest Landscape
- Lift Your Burdens High For This Is Where We Cross
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/300x300/10573113.jpg

By far one of the most powerful and emotional albums I've ever heard, it's got wonderful balance between the chaotic and calm and just about the most emotional vocals I've ever heard from a band of this style.

Awesome choice, this album rules. Definitely a punk rock album in spirit.

jackhammer 02-16-2011 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1005379)
well I thought this was anything Punk related as James stated. Not really like a introduction/education to Punk.

No worries. I do hope you like them.

Engine 02-16-2011 11:59 PM

I guess I'm backing a loser right now but I vote:

Christ on a Crutch

James 02-18-2011 11:33 AM

The Durutti Column wins, I'll make a thread.

dankrsta 02-21-2011 07:21 PM

I have a suggestion:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...500_AA300_.jpg

The Cravats - The Colossal Tunes Out (1982)

I stumbled upon this English punk/post-punk band recently and it amazes me how something so good can be hidden for so long (at least from me). This is their second and the last(?) album and is a real gem. Guitar, bass, drums and saxophone create such a dirty, frenetic sound, sometimes incredibly catchy, sometimes with an unpredictable twist. This is post-punk played with a raw punk energy and attitude. I found it on only one blog and it's apparently a vinyl rip, but a very good one. So if/when this album is elected I'll pm all those who are interested.


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