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Old 02-05-2011, 04:44 AM   #21 (permalink)
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I'm not a fan of any genre that has the word art in front of it...music is art. What about these genres make it more....(i dont know the word I'm looking for) arty?
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Okay... so what's the difference between art punk and post-punk?
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Okay... so what's the difference between art punk and post-punk?
Are you asking the question because you're not sure? Or do you know the answer and are just trying to stimulate debate on the actual difference?
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Are you asking the question because you're not sure? Or do you know the answer and are just trying to stimulate debate on the actual difference?
I'm asking because I am unsure and I want to stimulate a debate.
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Marquee Moon is definitely a great album, but I do think it's tricky to call a Punk album. There's a sort of rawness even in its beauty (especially the title track), but raw doesn't necessarily equate Punk.
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Okay... so what's the difference between art punk and post-punk?
I think that post punk is the blanket term that art rock snuggles under. The more experimental bands tend to get grouped into the art punk region of post punk, but it still remains post punk. At least that's what I think, I wouldn't mind if someone corrected me.
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I think that post punk is the blanket term that art rock snuggles under. The more experimental bands tend to get grouped into the art punk region of post punk, but it still remains post punk. At least that's what I think, I wouldn't mind if someone corrected me.
Its a good question and a hard one. Starting with art-rock which basically as far as know, is is a form of rock that mixes in avant-garde influences but DOESN'T get too experimental (for example there is singing in the style of a normal song) artists I include in this bracket could be David Bowie, Roxy Music, Peter Gabriel and Kate Bush. When I looked on Wiki they also threw up artists like Jethro Tull, Moody Blues and ELO, artists I wouldn't put under the art-rock moniker.

So taking this guidline and adding it to punk, I'd say its the artier punk bands that had some avant-garde influences and were looking to explore outside of the basic confines of punk.

How this differs from post-punk that really is quite difficult, when I think of Post-punk I do think Krautrock influences but a lot of the bands that make up post-punk don't have those influences at all, for example bands like the Teardrop Explodes.

Also, where does a band like Wire fit in art-punk, post-punk or as I like to call them prog-punk.

This could actually be a good debate, as I really don't know the answer.
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