VEGANGELICA

What about the Butchies? They sound more romanticy than rioty to me, since they're singing about being a love monkey in bed and whatnot. I wasn't sure if I could trust Wikipedia when it included the Butchies with the riot grrrl movement.

If they aren't part of the movement, then it's too bad, because I like them.

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Sheep-Sqweak

Lol i never said they were a riot grrrl band i was just asking if anyone has heard of them :P

because you know girl bands/bands with girl singers might have a mention in here too haha i personally think bands with girl singers are fkn bommmb haha

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bob.

i agree...and a damn good one at that

no self respecting riot grrrl band would have be on Epitaph (sell outs ONLY!!!) or Sympathy For The Record Industry (patriarchal pricks)

did anybody see Terri Wahl (singer/guitar) go up against Iron Chef Bobby Flay in a cupcake throwdown?

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Sansa Stark

Does she win? I ****ing hate Bobby Flay

he is SUCH A DOUCHE

bob.

i was looking for it on youtube....

i'm almost positive she kills him with red velvet cupcakes (like 99.8 % sure)

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VEGANGELICA

This week I heard for the first time and enjoyed the song "A Girl's Toolbox" by the former duo Tattle Tale.

Wikipedia describes Tattle Tale as "an American musical group that existed between 1992 and 1995. Composed of Jen Wood and Madigan Shive, they were well-known in the Riot Grrrl scene, playing what was later to be termed folk punk."

I definitely like the punk feel of this song and also the lyric, "I've got a hammer, but the nail isn't you. Come with me, we'll build a house tree." I like the constructive rather than destructive feel of the song! I also like that it is so supportive of women's significance. The song feels sweet and forceful to me at the same time.

All their other songs on the "Sew True" album are too soft and willowy for my tastes, but this one...mmm...I like it quite a bit, especially when the energy of the guitar picks up near the middle, at 1:26...yeay! I like the buildup to that moment and the transition very much. I'd give the rest of the album a pass, but this song is a keeper for me:

Tattle Tale - "A Girl's Toolbox" from their album Sew True

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thirtiesgirl

Something we agree on. Although the Red Aunts were making music when the riot grrrl scene was gaining attention (I think I saw them live around '91-'92?), they weren't really part of the scene and their influences were different.

Although I very much identify and agree with all the tenets of the riot grrrl movement, I was never a big fan of the music itself. While I'm all for untutored musicians doing their own thing, however they want to do it, that doesn't always mean they're going to make good music that I want to listen to. Sleater-Kinney are probably the only band I enjoy that might be considered part of the riot grrrl scene, although they kind of transcended the genre and DIY stylistic elements of riot grrrl to create something new. I was very sad when they broke up (or went on long-term hiatus, however you want to look at it).

Although I was never a fan of Bikini Kill, I'm a big fan of Kathleen Hannah and share her political mindset and belief system. I know you're young, Paloma, but it's unfortunate that you'd reduce a woman to a body part simply because you don't like her politics, her music or how she presents herself to the media ('twat' is a slang term for vagina, for the uninformed). I can hope you'll one day learn to express yourself with a little more maturity because I'm sure you have many interesting things to say, but for now, your youth and inexperience betray you. Despite my lack of interest in Bikini Kill, I do love most of what Hannah did with Le Tigre; not all, but most. I look forward to seeing what she'll do next.

One of my favorite moments in Le Tigre history: Le Tigre live on Last Call with Carson Daly. Who put the bomp...?!?

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Sansa Stark

lmao, is this real life? You quote an old post of mine just to have an opportunity to condescend to me even further. Oh you're a classy woman, you know? For your info, I call everyone I dislike a "twat", male or female regardless. YOU dehumanise people when you put their GENDER before their ENTIRE PERSON. YOU make that the most important thing about them, which I find to be utterly hilarious! YOU are entirely disrespectful to everyone you try to argue with and take it so ****ing personally when someone doesn't agree with you. You cannot respect anyone else's opinion if it is different from your own. Why does everything have to be vaginacentric with you? You need to put down the Germaine Greer and think with something other than your ovaries.

thirtiesgirl

I didn't refer to anyone as a twat, and have never done, even in my 20s. That was all you, my dear, and it doesn't look pretty on you.

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Sansa Stark

Way to not address my points other than one, you do realise this "dear, honey, sweetie" bull**** makes you sound like someones obnoxious old aunt that's desperate for a pole up her, right? It doesn't make you sound smart, or make you any better than me to condescend, it just makes you look like a twat.