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Old 07-18-2010, 04:33 PM   #31 (permalink)
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i had to ween myself off of Le Tigre....once i hear them they stay in my head for months (esp. that song and the song about Cassavetes)

thanks for the relapse.....
Start listening to a variety of electroclash or techno? Left some suggestions on your page.
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Old 07-21-2010, 03:51 AM   #32 (permalink)
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The screechy thing is kind of the entire point, Veg. Its not for everybody. Her voice gets annoying after a while, but Kathleen Hannah (Bikini Kill vocalist) is in an electroclash band and sings slightly less obnoxiously.


If you listen to music for lyrics that resonate with you politically, Le Tigre works.
Kathleen Hanna's voice just seemed screechier than the other examples in this thread!

Hmm, the singing in "Hot Topic" by Le Tigre sounded so childlike and melodic to me that I thought the song could be considered soul, if it weren't for the drum pattern and a bit of distorted guitar. Their singing didn't seem to have much edge and made the song sound very tame...although of course the topic is good!
I'll try listening to some more of their stuff. Maybe there's something harsher. I probably just prefer a punk sound to electroclash.

Thank you for mentioning electroclash, by the way. I'd never heard of that genre before, Oh Wise and Knowledgable Tumor.
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If a chicken was smart enough to be able to speak English and run in a geometric pattern, then I think it should be smart enough to dial 911 (999) before getting the axe, and scream to the operator, "Something must be done! Something must be done!"

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Old 07-23-2010, 02:43 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Kathleen Hanna is a twat, Riot Grrl was a ****ty movement

The female crust bands > Riot Grrl

They had better ideas and much more important things to say than LOOK I HAVE A VAGINA LET ME SHOW YOU IT RECLAIMING MY SEXUALITY AYAYAYAYAYAYAYAY

IMO Vi Subversa of Poison Girls was a much better feminist figure, as she was a housewife/mother and knew of both sides, rather than Kathleen Hanna spouting off her bull****
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Old 07-23-2010, 05:35 PM   #34 (permalink)
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I like Slant 6 because her voice sounds sweet but also not too pretty.
The voice is one of the key reasons I like Slant 6. They were just an unpretentious band who used their talents well .. and liked punk rock

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Kathleen Hanna is a twat, Riot Grrl was a ****ty movement
I disagree. Maybe your point about Poison Girls is a good one but I wouldn't know because I never heard of them until now.

But I definitely knew about Bikini Kill and had respect for them. As for Riot Grrl - I dunno. The girls I knew at the time didn't need that kind of thing to feel 'empowered' but I bet a lot of girls all over the place had never even thought about standing up against viral small-town-style sexism until they heard Bikini Kill et al
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Old 07-23-2010, 09:58 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Crass - Penis Envy
I can't believe nobody mentioned this yet... the whole album is done with female vocals.
I was about to mention this
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Old 07-24-2010, 08:57 PM   #36 (permalink)
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As for Riot Grrl - I dunno. The girls I knew at the time didn't need that kind of thing to feel 'empowered' but I bet a lot of girls all over the place had never even thought about standing up against viral small-town-style sexism until they heard Bikini Kill et al
Somehow...probably due to focusing on college studies...I managed to miss the whole Riot Grrrl feminist punk movement in the 1990s. I didn't even know it existed until...today!

Paloma said she felt Riot Grrrl was a ****ty movement, and you, Engine, think it was probably helpful to women. I'm curious about what led you both to have such a difference of opinion.

Paloma, what about the Riot Grrrl movement did you think was ****ty? I actually don't know anything about it other than the opinions you and Engine gave and what I've read on Wikipedia. I think it is interesting that "Riot grrrls took a growling double or triple r, placing it in the word girl, as a way to take back the derogatory use of the term."

I like when music connects with social movements and history rather than just being pure entertainment, so now I'm more curious about all the bands that considered themselves part of the Riot Grrrl movement.
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Old 08-16-2010, 03:13 PM   #37 (permalink)
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All or Nothing HC
Bikini Kill
Bratmobile
Grut
Toy Attica
I Object
Vice Squad
Naked Aggress
Bruise Violet

and my favorite right now is definately Blatz
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Oh jesus. Fighting over which feminist movement is better is like fighting over which sect of Christianity is better. They both had a message with a slightly different twist. I don't give a s*** who is "better" but I know that not all women have the same experiences so some related to one or the other. I related to the riot girl movement.
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Old 08-18-2010, 12:22 AM   #39 (permalink)
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more bands:

GRUK
A.P.P.L.E.
DIRT
THE SLITS
HUGGY BEAR
ABRUPT
MANKIND?
CRASS
POSION GIRLS
45 GRAVE
THE VOIDS
FOR F*** SAKE
BRUISE VIOLET (broke up)
SKARP
SECRET SECT
THE GRUPS
SECRET CERVIX
FLEAS AND LICE
CONTRAVENE
BLACK BIRD RAUM
RIOT THIS
ARCTIC FLOWERS
A PRETTY MESS
INDUSTRIA
END IS NOW
SIN REMEDIO
THE POTENTIAL LUNATICS
KILLER LOW LIFE
and the list goes on...


and the type of band it is that a girl is in doesn't matter in the punk scene. if the girl has a brain and voices their own opinions, not the media's, it's good enough and inspires other females to empower themselves and try to make this world a more equal place. if you discourage a female band, your discouraging the future.
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Old 08-18-2010, 01:23 AM   #40 (permalink)
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Oh jesus. Fighting over which feminist movement is better is like fighting over which sect of Christianity is better. They both had a message with a slightly different twist. I don't give a s*** who is "better" but I know that not all women have the same experiences so some related to one or the other. I related to the riot girl movement.
Rriot Grrl, your username and posts above make me think you'll know the answer to this...

Were there just two main feminist punk music movements...the "female crust punk" bands and the "Riot Grrl" movement? How do you feel the two movements' song messages differed? I haven't heard enough of their music to know yet. And what made you relate to the riot grrl movement more than the crust movement?

I agree with the idea of not wanting to discourage any band because of its particular feminist political message, partly for the reason you mention!
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