Steampunk.

MSC · 05-01-2010, 07:19 PM

So from what I've gathered there isn't an associated subgenre of punk music for the Steampunk phenomena/subculture. It seems to mostly be about visual art, literature, and fashion. Is this so? I ask because both the fashion and the arts of the movement are interesting to me despite their seemingly lacking in punk related material.

Also, what are anyone's feelings towards the movement?

tgpo · 05-02-2010, 01:22 PM

It's scalding if touched.

BTown · 05-02-2010, 04:33 PM

labeled steampunk on last.fm

I think the whole "movement" is one of the lamest things I've ever heard. Anyone who wants to start a punk movement pertaining to fashion can go listen to All Time Low and Every Avenue.

MSC · 05-02-2010, 05:48 PM

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I think the whole "movement" is one of the lamest things I've ever heard. Anyone who wants to start a punk movement pertaining to fashion can go listen to All Time Low and Every Avenue.

So a person shouldn't be interested in fashion and punk? I understand not condoning sweatshops and exploiting companies and etc but every Steampunk fashion store I've ever been to has been just as DIY as any independent self released whatever. And there's concept to it; it's not just mindless materialism.

LoathsomePete · 05-02-2010, 06:27 PM

OK you guys are aware that steampunk is a literary sub genre of alternative history, science fiction, and fantasy right? It is essentially the opposite of the Cyberpunk literary genre. The "punk" aspect comes from the protagonist being an individual set on bringing down a totalitarian Government or Mega Corporation. That kind of subordination is kind of the essence of the punk ideology.

The steam aspect comes from the Victorian age setting with steam based technology. Rather than looking into the future with Cyberpunk, Steampunk looks at a "what could have..." so the inclusion of some modern version technology is added for aesthetic purposes. Steampunk focuses on social misfits or people who think outside the general consensus, much like punk ideology, fashion, etc.

Good place to start with the genre is The Difference Engine written by William Gibson (famous Cyberpunk author) and Bruce Sterling.

BTown · 05-02-2010, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MSC

So a person shouldn't be interested in fashion and punk? I understand not condoning sweatshops and exploiting companies and etc but every Steampunk fashion store I've ever been to has been just as DIY as any independent self released whatever. And there's concept to it; it's not just mindless materialism.

Yiou make a good point, I don't stop to think about that. First thing that came to midn when I thought of fashion was just mindless materialism and stuff like these guys.

mr dave · 05-03-2010, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by LoathsomePete

Good place to start with the genre is The Difference Engine written by William Gibson (famous Cyberpunk author) and Bruce Sterling.

i'd rather re-read the Neuromancer 'trilogy' thank you very much hehehe

though to be honest i don't think i've had the chance to read The Difference Engine, have a copy of just about everything else Gibson has put out though. He's also moved away from the cyberpunk angle over the last decade (since 'All Tomorrow's Parties').

jack the stripper · 05-08-2010, 05:52 PM

this is quite an interesting thread. i stumbled upon some really awesome steampunk taxidermy one day and then attempted to find some steampunk music. it seems to me that there is still no definitive steampunk sound. most notably, there's dr. steel, which has hip hop influences, and then there's abney park, which to me sounds somewhat like goth pop. however, i am curious if anyone knows of any steampunk bands that actually have punk music influences.

LoathsomePete · 05-08-2010, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mr dave

i'd rather re-read the Neuromancer 'trilogy' thank you very much hehehe

though to be honest i don't think i've had the chance to read The Difference Engine, have a copy of just about everything else Gibson has put out though. He's also moved away from the cyberpunk angle over the last decade (since 'All Tomorrow's Parties').

Totally, I prefer Cyberpunk over Steampunk any day of the week and the Neuromancer trilogy is easily one of the best sci-fi trilogies every written.

rnrloser_IX · 05-11-2010, 08:05 PM

Steampunk as a music genre is hasn't really taken off yet, I don't even know if it really will unfortunately, the stuff out there is pretty cool. It kinda hangs more towards literature, art, and culture. Abney Park is a pretty good example of it but they only really changed to it on their Lost Horizons album. Unextraordinary Gentlemen is another.

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jack the stripper Groupie Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: New York, NY Posts: 25	this is quite an interesting thread. i stumbled upon some really awesome steampunk taxidermy one day and then attempted to find some steampunk music. it seems to me that there is still no definitive steampunk sound. most notably, there's dr. steel, which has hip hop influences, and then there's abney park, which to me sounds somewhat like goth pop. however, i am curious if anyone knows of any steampunk bands that actually have punk music influences. __________________ ( ( ( (( f o r y o u r h e a l t h )) ) ) ) Last edited by jack the stripper; 05-08-2010 at 05:59 PM.

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rnrloser_IX Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: North bum-feck, NH Posts: 98	Steampunk as a music genre is hasn't really taken off yet, I don't even know if it really will unfortunately, the stuff out there is pretty cool. It kinda hangs more towards literature, art, and culture. Abney Park is a pretty good example of it but they only really changed to it on their Lost Horizons album. Unextraordinary Gentlemen is another. __________________ -IX