right wing punk?

duga · 03-07-2010, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by fairborn420

Freedom of speech should not carry any caveat. In fact, I would say people that have these views should be encouraged to spout them often and loudly. That way we know who the idiots are. Thats the big problem with political correctness. It doesnt change anyones views or opinions, it just teaches them to hide them. I dont want them to hide them. If I have a neighbor who holds racist view points I would like to know that as soon as possible that way i dont have them over for dinner or have my kids at their house for year or more before I find out about these views.

I can agree with this 100%. Good point.

hip hop bunny hop · 03-17-2010, 03:05 PM

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I don't agree with racism of any kind...including from a minority. However, racism in rap music is tolerated a lot more because - let's face it - whites were kind of huge ****s to them. Is it a double standard? Yes. One day it might be gone, but it will take time.

That's horse****. No African-American has any right to bitch about "historical inequality" - their ancestors plight has benefitted them a thousand fold. Because of slavery they were born in a first world country; not some 3rd world hellhole. Add in all the other structural inequalities put into place from a Federal to a local Government level, and African Americans have a plethora of advantages over whites.

Further, "whites" weren't responsible for slavery. Slavery was practiced by a minority of Whites (and Indians, for that matter); of that minority, roughly 50% of slaves were owned by individuals who had over 40 slaves. So any notion of collective racial guilt on the part of whites is asinine.

The notion that we should ignore Black racists but crucify white racists is idiotic. Not only is racism more prevalent in the african american community, but african americans are far more violent as well. Meaning, blacks commit more hate crimes on whites than the other way around.

Lastly, the reason whites tolerate black racism is because Liberals lack a spine. The ****ing President is a black man, and yet most hold the notion that White racism is a problem. Morons.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 03-17-2010, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop

The ****ing President is a black man, and yet most hold the notion that White racism is a problem. Morons.

So what exactly are you trying to imply here?
That the ****ing president is racist towards his own mother?

hip hop bunny hop · 03-17-2010, 03:56 PM

Don't be sensationalist. I'm simply pointing out that the era of the "white man" oppressing the black man is over, that there are so few white racists that a white majority country elected a black man president. (EDIT) So, to take it further, that the African American communty's numerous problems aren't a result of white racism, but are a result of their own failings.

Violent & Funky · 03-17-2010, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop

That's horse****. No African-American has any right to bitch about "historical inequality" - their ancestors plight has benefitted them a thousand fold. Because of slavery they were born in a first world country; not some 3rd world hellhole. Add in all the other structural inequalities put into place from a Federal to a local Government level, and African Americans have a plethora of advantages over whites.

Further, "whites" weren't responsible for slavery. Slavery was practiced by a minority of Whites (and Indians, for that matter); of that minority, roughly 50% of slaves were owned by individuals who had over 40 slaves. So any notion of collective racial guilt on the part of whites is asinine.

The notion that we should ignore Black racists but crucify white racists is idiotic. Not only is racism more prevalent in the african american community, but african americans are far more violent as well. Meaning, blacks commit more hate crimes on whites than the other way around.

Lastly, the reason whites tolerate black racism is because Liberals lack a spine. The ****ing President is a black man, and yet most hold the notion that White racism is a problem. Morons.

I'm not fully in agreement with it, but this is actually one hell of a post...

**Janszoon** · 03-17-2010, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop

That's horse****. No African-American has any right to bitch about "historical inequality" - their ancestors plight has benefitted them a thousand fold. Because of slavery they were born in a first world country; not some 3rd world hellhole. Add in all the other structural inequalities put into place from a Federal to a local Government level, and African Americans have a plethora of advantages over whites.

Further, "whites" weren't responsible for slavery. Slavery was practiced by a minority of Whites (and Indians, for that matter); of that minority, roughly 50% of slaves were owned by individuals who had over 40 slaves. So any notion of collective racial guilt on the part of whites is asinine.

The notion that we should ignore Black racists but crucify white racists is idiotic. Not only is racism more prevalent in the african american community, but african americans are far more violent as well. Meaning, blacks commit more hate crimes on whites than the other way around.

Lastly, the reason whites tolerate black racism is because Liberals lack a spine. The ****ing President is a black man, and yet most hold the notion that White racism is a problem. Morons.

I can't count the number of times I've read or heard rationalizations nearly identical to this from raging white supremacists. I'm not sure if you really are one or not, but if you aren't you do one hell of a good impression.

**Janszoon** · 03-17-2010, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Violent & Funky

I'm not fully in agreement with it, but this is actually one hell of a post...

Yeah, sounds like something you'd find on stormfront.

~~CAPTAIN CAVEMAN~~ · 03-17-2010, 06:13 PM

he makes a good point besides the "getting to be born in a first world country" part, assuming that fact about who owned slaves is correct - which it wouldn't surprise me if it was.

i don't know how many other european-descent north americans feel the same way as me, because it all depends on your personal history, but i am very offended by the reverse racism that is implicitly directed upon me because of my skin colour. its okay for first nations/inuit/native americans/afroamericans to use the term "white man," "white man's religion," etc, but the reverse is intolerably racist. for me, my father was born in scotland and my mother was the first on her side to be born in canada. my personal heritage has fuck all to do with colonizing anyone or owning any slaves, and i'm supposed to feel guilty for what happened centuries ago, just because historically people from my ethnic background did some horrible shit? if that's not racist i don't know what is.

i'm sure this is true for others as well.

PaulRevere · 03-17-2010, 06:20 PM

right wing punk is a oxymoron, i think, lol

Engine · 03-17-2010, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop

Don't be sensationalist. I'm simply pointing out that the era of the "white man" oppressing the black man is over, that there are so few white racists that a white majority country elected a black man president. (EDIT) So, to take it further, that the African American communty's numerous problems aren't a result of white racism, but are a result of their own failings.

I suppose we are now in an American 'era' when a minority of white racists who would like to see the "black man" oppressed can't get satisfaction only because that is not the norm anymore. So now, white racists get to be indignant and self righteous because they are the oppressed minority. Ironic, eh?
Oh, and check out your edit again: It's fucking sensationalist.

And, hey, aren't we talking about punk rock here? Do you know of any white racist bands who make a more cogent argument for white supremacy than you have been able to make on this thread? I don't.

03-17-2010, 03:56 PM	#114 (permalink)
hip hop bunny hop Music Addict Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,381	Don't be sensationalist. I'm simply pointing out that the era of the "white man" oppressing the black man is over, that there are so few white racists that a white majority country elected a black man president. (EDIT) So, to take it further, that the African American communty's numerous problems aren't a result of white racism, but are a result of their own failings.

03-17-2010, 06:13 PM	#118 (permalink)
~~CAPTAIN CAVEMAN~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: VAN Posts: 2,530	he makes a good point besides the "getting to be born in a first world country" part, assuming that fact about who owned slaves is correct - which it wouldn't surprise me if it was. i don't know how many other european-descent north americans feel the same way as me, because it all depends on your personal history, but i am very offended by the reverse racism that is implicitly directed upon me because of my skin colour. its okay for first nations/inuit/native americans/afroamericans to use the term "white man," "white man's religion," etc, but the reverse is intolerably racist. for me, my father was born in scotland and my mother was the first on her side to be born in canada. my personal heritage has fuck all to do with colonizing anyone or owning any slaves, and i'm supposed to feel guilty for what happened centuries ago, just because historically people from my ethnic background did some horrible shit? if that's not racist i don't know what is. i'm sure this is true for others as well.

03-17-2010, 06:20 PM	#119 (permalink)
PaulRevere Groupie Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Columbus, Oh Posts: 19	right wing punk is a oxymoron, i think, lol