right wing punk?

asshat · 03-02-2010, 12:07 PM

Nobody here is asking for the Angry Aryans to be censored or think they don't have the right to their opinion....they just think their brand of music is retarded and offensive.

fairborn420 · 03-03-2010, 08:50 PM

I still say that being offended is a choice. I think its ridiculous for some white kid to clain to be offended by racial remarks against blacks. Also, how can another persons opinion offend you? I dont get that. I dont support racism of any kind and Im not taking up for this band, Ive actually never listened to them, but they dont offend me in the slightest. Also, have you ever listened to rap lyrics. They call themselves by the same names that this punk band uses and alot of time they talk negativley about whites. Does that offend anyone?

~~TumorAttitude~~ · 03-03-2010, 08:59 PM

Dude....I don't see them as "blacks", I see them as people that the Angry Aryans are dehumanizing and directing violence towards. I dislike hate and violence directed towards pretty much anyone regardless of their race, sexual orientation, or political views. Because the violence is not directed at me, I am supposed to completely disregard it?
I don't like the Angry Aryans and I don't really listen to rap religeously. Some may talk negatively about whites, but I don't really care. I don't listen to it and I don't listen to music that I feel is dehumanizing and dumb.
Also, why is rasist (NAZI!!!!!!) punk being discussed in the right-wing punk thread? I'm liberal and a dick about it but its insulting to the right wing to put it in the same category as the fucking Nazis.

asshat · 03-04-2010, 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by fairborn420

I still say that being offended is a choice. I think its ridiculous for some white kid to clain to be offended by racial remarks against blacks. Also, how can another persons opinion offend you? I dont get that. I dont support racism of any kind and Im not taking up for this band, Ive actually never listened to them, but they dont offend me in the slightest. Also, have you ever listened to rap lyrics. They call themselves by the same names that this punk band uses and alot of time they talk negativley about whites. Does that offend anyone?

Words by themselves are meaningless, but the context is important. Black people can use those words because they're black themselves, and they probably don't mean it in a derogatory sense. A band that calls themselves the Angry Aryans probably does. Anyone who can't spot the difference is retarded.(If whites were a minority, I'd feel a bit more threatened by the anti-white stuff).

Urban Hat€monger ? · 03-04-2010, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by fairborn420

I still say that being offended is a choice. I think its ridiculous for some white kid to clain to be offended by racial remarks against blacks. Also, how can another persons opinion offend you?

Is the very real fear of seeing a family member in hospital due to someone expressing hateful words a choice too?
I'm not offended by someone's opinion. I'm concerned about the effect they have on weak minded thugs looking for a fight.

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I dont get that. I dont support racism of any kind and Im not taking up for this band, Ive actually never listened to them, but they dont offend me in the slightest.

Well that's good, but then I guess you have nothing to fear from the crap they spout.
I do however and that's why i'm concerned.

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Also, have you ever listened to rap lyrics. They call themselves by the same names that this punk band uses and alot of time they talk negativley about whites. Does that offend anyone?

It doesn't offend me no, but that's not to say it's right.

fairborn420 · 03-05-2010, 04:07 PM

To say that you might be more concerned with rap lyrics if whites were a minority is bizarre. Racism is racism. No matter where it comes from or what group its directed towards. I dont listen to this particular band. Not because they offend me but I just have no interest in listening to those types of lyrics. The same reason i dont listen to certain rap music. Im just curious as to why there is so much concern over one group who spouts racism toward blacks but zero concern over the many many rap groups that spout racism toward whites? Why does there seem to be this "double standard"? Is it ok to entice violence against a group of people only if they are a majority?

duga · 03-05-2010, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by fairborn420

To say that you might be more concerned with rap lyrics if whites were a minority is bizarre. Racism is racism. No matter where it comes from or what group its directed towards. I dont listen to this particular band. Not because they offend me but I just have no interest in listening to those types of lyrics. The same reason i dont listen to certain rap music. Im just curious as to why there is so much concern over one group who spouts racism toward blacks but zero concern over the many many rap groups that spout racism toward whites? Why does there seem to be this "double standard"? Is it ok to entice violence against a group of people only if they are a majority?

As much as people these days would love to take themselves out of a historical perspective, it is impossible to do so. The days of inequality are over? Maybe comparatively, but certainly not absolutely. The Civil Rights movement was no less than around 50 years ago, and that may seem like a long time at first glance, but when you really think about it, a lot of our parents were alive during this time.

I don't agree with racism of any kind...including from a minority. However, racism in rap music is tolerated a lot more because - let's face it - whites were kind of huge ****s to them. Is it a double standard? Yes. One day it might be gone, but it will take time.

scottsy · 03-06-2010, 05:40 PM

I dunno, anything that genuine promotes whte supremacy, racism, or bigoted views and MEANS it sincerely, I'd put a freaking hammer to every darn copy of it I could find... bye bye Ipod, nazi boy!

scottsy · 03-06-2010, 05:42 PM

Freedom of speech should always carry the caveat... " unless you're views are f u c king deranged and harmful.

fairborn420 · 03-06-2010, 07:51 PM

Freedom of speech should not carry any caveat. In fact, I would say people that have these views should be encouraged to spout them often and loudly. That way we know who the idiots are. Thats the big problem with political correctness. It doesnt change anyones views or opinions, it just teaches them to hide them. I dont want them to hide them. If I have a neighbor who holds racist view points I would like to know that as soon as possible that way i dont have them over for dinner or have my kids at their house for year or more before I find out about these views.

03-02-2010, 12:07 PM	#101 (permalink)
asshat king of sex Join Date: May 2009 Location: canada Posts: 331	Nobody here is asking for the Angry Aryans to be censored or think they don't have the right to their opinion....they just think their brand of music is retarded and offensive. __________________ Rye Catcher II: Electric Boogaloo http://oldhickory666.blogspot.com/

03-06-2010, 05:40 PM	#108 (permalink)
scottsy Untalented Drummer Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Sussex, Wisconsin Posts: 2,900	I dunno, anything that genuine promotes whte supremacy, racism, or bigoted views and MEANS it sincerely, I'd put a freaking hammer to every darn copy of it I could find... bye bye Ipod, nazi boy! __________________ "If you're like me, then it's possible you're a clone generated from my stolen DNA. I suggest you turn yourself in for destruction immediately" - Shaun Micallef.

03-06-2010, 05:42 PM	#109 (permalink)
scottsy Untalented Drummer Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Sussex, Wisconsin Posts: 2,900	Freedom of speech should always carry the caveat... " unless you're views are f u c king deranged and harmful. __________________ "If you're like me, then it's possible you're a clone generated from my stolen DNA. I suggest you turn yourself in for destruction immediately" - Shaun Micallef.

03-06-2010, 07:51 PM	#110 (permalink)
fairborn420 Groupie Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 16	Freedom of speech should not carry any caveat. In fact, I would say people that have these views should be encouraged to spout them often and loudly. That way we know who the idiots are. Thats the big problem with political correctness. It doesnt change anyones views or opinions, it just teaches them to hide them. I dont want them to hide them. If I have a neighbor who holds racist view points I would like to know that as soon as possible that way i dont have them over for dinner or have my kids at their house for year or more before I find out about these views. Last edited by fairborn420; 03-07-2010 at 12:17 AM.

03-03-2010, 08:50 PM	#102 (permalink)
fairborn420 Groupie Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 16	I still say that being offended is a choice. I think its ridiculous for some white kid to clain to be offended by racial remarks against blacks. Also, how can another persons opinion offend you? I dont get that. I dont support racism of any kind and Im not taking up for this band, Ive actually never listened to them, but they dont offend me in the slightest. Also, have you ever listened to rap lyrics. They call themselves by the same names that this punk band uses and alot of time they talk negativley about whites. Does that offend anyone?

03-03-2010, 08:59 PM	#103 (permalink)
~~TumorAttitude~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Purgatory Posts: 749	Dude....I don't see them as "blacks", I see them as people that the Angry Aryans are dehumanizing and directing violence towards. I dislike hate and violence directed towards pretty much anyone regardless of their race, sexual orientation, or political views. Because the violence is not directed at me, I am supposed to completely disregard it? I don't like the Angry Aryans and I don't really listen to rap religeously. Some may talk negatively about whites, but I don't really care. I don't listen to it and I don't listen to music that I feel is dehumanizing and dumb. Also, why is rasist (NAZI!!!!!!) punk being discussed in the right-wing punk thread? I'm liberal and a dick about it but its insulting to the right wing to put it in the same category as the fucking Nazis.

03-05-2010, 04:07 PM	#106 (permalink)
fairborn420 Groupie Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 16	To say that you might be more concerned with rap lyrics if whites were a minority is bizarre. Racism is racism. No matter where it comes from or what group its directed towards. I dont listen to this particular band. Not because they offend me but I just have no interest in listening to those types of lyrics. The same reason i dont listen to certain rap music. Im just curious as to why there is so much concern over one group who spouts racism toward blacks but zero concern over the many many rap groups that spout racism toward whites? Why does there seem to be this "double standard"? Is it ok to entice violence against a group of people only if they are a majority?