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Has anybody mentioned Au Pairs? Playing With a Different Sex and Sense & Sensuality are both right up there.

I will have to plump for Wire who are still pumping out interesting albums to this day. This year's Red Barked Tree is a fantastic album.

joy division, the fall and birthday party are my favorites.

Psychedelic furs as well.

Are there any good american post-punk bands?

One of the best



Big Black, Mission of Burma, The Feelies, Minutemen and all the College Rock/Hardcore Punk/Noise Rock/No Wave bands that could be termed post-punk too.

Echo & The Bunnymen's Porcupine is also what U2 would sound like if The Edge could play more than just chord fragments and Bono could actually sing

Tuxedomoon and Chrome are two more must-hear American post-punk bands.

Really?

Of course. Minutemen had the punk ethos, and took it down eclectic and experimental routes. Double Nickels on the Dime backs up my point, there are jazz, funk and country influences thrown in to the mix, producing what is in essence a post-punk album.

So you have post punk in the late 70's ( wire, television, birthday party) then traditional punk in the 80's, and then post punk again?

All these post-___ genre terms confuse me, at least the timeline for it.

The clash had some funk and other elements too, could they be considered post-punk?

It just seems crazy to call pioneering artists in the genre "post" this when they helped form it, but I'm probably nitpicking a lot.