Favorite Post-Punk Band?

Sneer · 08-01-2011, 11:50 AM

I think E&TB from Crocodile up to Ocean Rain are right up there with the absolute pinnacle of post-punk.

Howard the Duck · 08-01-2011, 09:18 PM

^^I'd like to think Ocean Rain as more of a pop album

Crocodile until Porcupine, really

Sneer · 08-01-2011, 10:04 PM

Ocean Rain is post-punk. With its whole dark, orchestral and stormy sound it clearly tips its hat to the Gothic rock that was prevalent throughout the early to mid-80s. Post-punk doesn't have a clear, identifiable sound, it consists of various divergent movements and sounds that sprouted and evolved from the original punk movement. E&TB started out sounding one way and developed with each album, but OR is still based on a sound that originated in the experimental punk aftermath. If post-punk can be applied to bands like Breathless, This Mortal Coil, and Lowlife, then it definitely covers Ocean Rain.

But fuck it, one thing this thread has shown is the difficulty implicit in terming what is and isn't post-punk.

Howard the Duck · 08-01-2011, 10:05 PM

i seem to associate post-punk with the monotonal drum beat, repeated doomy bass and jarring guitar chords

Sneer · 08-01-2011, 10:12 PM

Yeah that's one path it took, but as it developed it also went down Gothic, Industrial, and 'alternative' routes. Genres as diverse as Disco, Funk, Krautrock and Dub were all incorporated into the music being made as musicians sought to experiment with the original punk ethos.

It's all so broad and varied, and a bit of a headache.

TockTockTock · 08-01-2011, 10:18 PM

Agreed... The Cardiacs are considered to be art punk/post-punk, and they don't sound anything like you would typically expect from the genre. The same can be said about This Heat and some of the No Wave bands.

Sneer · 08-01-2011, 10:21 PM

Cardiacs are freaking awesome, and from my home town. Probably the only reason to be proud of Kingston. They were labelled 'pronk' (progressive punk) by some stupid journalists in the late 70s.

TockTockTock · 08-01-2011, 10:23 PM

Seriously? Have you ever met them or seen them live?

Sneer · 08-01-2011, 10:27 PM

Yeah I saw them twice at a venue called the Fighting Cocks that they used to frequent before Tim Smith had his health problems. There was a benefit show last month for him that I went to, Wizards of Twiddly were there.

I've spoken to Jim Smith very briefly, he was a bit odd but I kind of expected that. Tim was far too intimidating to approach haha.

BastardofYoung · 08-01-2011, 10:27 PM

Steven Wilson was born there, that counts for something.

08-01-2011, 11:50 AM	#171 (permalink)
Sneer Let it drip Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 5,430	I think E&TB from Crocodile up to Ocean Rain are right up there with the absolute pinnacle of post-punk. __________________ LastFM Sneer's Emporium of Sound Fright Team radio show

08-01-2011, 10:04 PM	#173 (permalink)
Sneer Let it drip Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 5,430	Ocean Rain is post-punk. With its whole dark, orchestral and stormy sound it clearly tips its hat to the Gothic rock that was prevalent throughout the early to mid-80s. Post-punk doesn't have a clear, identifiable sound, it consists of various divergent movements and sounds that sprouted and evolved from the original punk movement. E&TB started out sounding one way and developed with each album, but OR is still based on a sound that originated in the experimental punk aftermath. If post-punk can be applied to bands like Breathless, This Mortal Coil, and Lowlife, then it definitely covers Ocean Rain. But fuck it, one thing this thread has shown is the difficulty implicit in terming what is and isn't post-punk. __________________ LastFM Sneer's Emporium of Sound Fright Team radio show

08-01-2011, 10:12 PM	#175 (permalink)
Sneer Let it drip Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 5,430	Yeah that's one path it took, but as it developed it also went down Gothic, Industrial, and 'alternative' routes. Genres as diverse as Disco, Funk, Krautrock and Dub were all incorporated into the music being made as musicians sought to experiment with the original punk ethos. It's all so broad and varied, and a bit of a headache. __________________ LastFM Sneer's Emporium of Sound Fright Team radio show

08-01-2011, 10:21 PM	#177 (permalink)
Sneer Let it drip Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 5,430	Cardiacs are freaking awesome, and from my home town. Probably the only reason to be proud of Kingston. They were labelled 'pronk' (progressive punk) by some stupid journalists in the late 70s. __________________ LastFM Sneer's Emporium of Sound Fright Team radio show

08-01-2011, 10:27 PM	#179 (permalink)
Sneer Let it drip Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 5,430	Yeah I saw them twice at a venue called the Fighting Cocks that they used to frequent before Tim Smith had his health problems. There was a benefit show last month for him that I went to, Wizards of Twiddly were there. I've spoken to Jim Smith very briefly, he was a bit odd but I kind of expected that. Tim was far too intimidating to approach haha. __________________ LastFM Sneer's Emporium of Sound Fright Team radio show

08-01-2011, 10:18 PM	#176 (permalink)
TockTockTock They/Them Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,914	Agreed... The Cardiacs are considered to be art punk/post-punk, and they don't sound anything like you would typically expect from the genre. The same can be said about This Heat and some of the No Wave bands.

08-01-2011, 10:23 PM	#178 (permalink)
TockTockTock They/Them Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,914	Seriously? Have you ever met them or seen them live?

08-01-2011, 10:27 PM	#180 (permalink)
BastardofYoung Buzz Killjoy Join Date: May 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 2,692	Steven Wilson was born there, that counts for something. __________________ last.fm ‎"I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people." - Jack Handey.