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Green Day Insomniac. Real **** right there. And how is Korn a punk band?

BastardofYoung

I do not know if I can pick just 10... But 10 I would tell the newcomers to the style to start with (off the top of my head):

Dead Boys - Young, Loud and Snotty
NoMeansNo - Wrong
Stiff Little Fingers - Inflammable Material
The Vibrators - Pure Mania
Black Flag - My War
Bad Brains - ROIR [or just "Bad Brains" if you prefer]
DOA - Something Better Change
Dayglo Abortions - Feed Us a Fetus
SNFU - ...And No One Else Wanted to Play
Wipers - Youth of America

I do not know if I could come up with a 10 best list... would take me a long time to compile a list.. and would revise it all the time.

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FRED HALE SR.

Pretty good list.

1. Rudimentary Peni- Death Church
2. Discharge- Why
3. Germs- GI
4. RKL- Beautiful Feeling
5. Adolescents- ST
6. Conflict- Its time to see who's who.
7. Fear- The Record
8. UK Subs- Diminished Responsibility
9. GBH- City baby attacked by rats
10. Dr. Know- We got power, party or go home.

BastardofYoung

Same to you. I would probably include that Rudimentry Peni album for sure, as well as the albums by Adolescents and Germs as well. Discharge is a band I have heard, but not enough to say if i would rank it in the top. The only one I might knock off the top 10 in that list myself would be FEAR. I love "The Record", but it is not really a top 10 album to me either. Maybe just cause I have always been kinda impartial to Lee Ving himself and find him to be kind of an idiot... but that album was a good one, just not one I find has a lot of replay value over time.


10 more I would add to my list, like a to check out part 2:

Agent Orange - Living in Darkness
The Dicks - Kill From the Heart
Husker Du - Things Fall Apart
The Replacements - Sorry Ma, Forgot to Take Out the Trash
Minor Threat - Complete Discography
Angry Samoans - Inside My Brain
Slow - Against the Glass
The F.U.'s - Kill for Christ
Zero Boys - Vicious Circle
Void/The Faith - Split

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FRED HALE SR.

Yeah Lee Ving is one beer short of a six pack indeed. If I had to do it over, Black Flag, Reagan Youth, Descendents, Bad Brains, and DOA would definitely slide in the top ten. Its just really hard to pin down ten albums, always works better with a top 25.

BastardofYoung

Yeah. Reagan Youth is a good band. I added Paul Bakija on facebook the other day actually. He is really cool and takes the time to answer questions for fans if they ask him something. Nice guy.

Somebody asked him recently how he got the sound on those early albums, and tips on how to do it and what equipment he used, he responded:

"Hey Jim,

If you look at the info on the first record, it says "recorded between Spring 1983 to Spring 1984. That's over a year ! And for seven songs that averaged a minute and a half in length. That's a lot of time spent recording for such a short time ofmusic. Now a whole bunch of time was spent on getting the guitar to sound down.

Back when I recorded those early songs I used an audioworks distortion box and played through fender amps and sometimes marshalls. Sometimes I'd record directly into the board and when I did that I'd listen to the guitar sound coming through the speakers and it sounded awesome. some off those songs were recorded that way, but that could sound thin as well, so you can always double up the guitar. Anythng is possible when recording, don't forget that.

Bottom line is this; plug your guitar into an amp you think sounds best and microphone placement is really important. I like to have the amp facing a wall and I put the microphone in between the speaker and the wall so the sound from the amp bounces off the wall and back at the microphone.

There's a lot you can do so have fun with it and don't let yourself ever get frustrated. This should be a labor of love,guyitar the ultimate guitar tone down. Always think dirty sounding, a metallic sound like you get from the Big Muff distirtion box. I think I'm gonna have to buy one just thinking about it......lol

Oh, and the guitar I used was a Les Paul copy by Ibanez from the 70's. Ibanez made great copies. So great Gibson sued them.....lol

Definitely use a guitar with humbuckers, no single coils if you want that dirty, metallic sound from the early Reagan Youth recordings.

I hope I've benn some help, and keep rockin' that guitar !

Good luck,
-Paul"

yeah, typos and all in that are are straight from the man himself. Really cool that he answered the question, and did it really quickly. Like 10 minutes after being asked.

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FRED HALE SR.

I always enjoyed Punk Rock because of that factor. Guys you idolized growing up and they would end their set and have a beer with you after and shoot the **** like a normal joe. That kind of thing just doesn't happen with mainstream acts. Their egos take over after time and they separate themselves from the people that made them who they are. Rarely happens in Punk rock, but there are some guys with egos out there.

BastardofYoung

Yeah. I have met a few guys from the punk scene over the years, and all of them have been nice and really friendly. There is always that moment though when you go to approach them, especially after a set where on stage you see they can be dicks... but you meet and chat with them after and realise how much of it is just a stage persona and they are not like that offstage.

I remember one of my favorites was The Black Halos, I chatted with them for a few minutes and they were nice, Billy chatted with me like a person, and soon after meeting them they had me by the stage doing background vocals, signing stuff for me and they even invited me to an after party and treated me like I was one of them. I still talk to Billy and he is always cool to me.

That is why I loved the punk scene, i remember being that dorky looking kid at 14 with no friends, cause everything thought i was just a freak. I went to shows before and people just kinda passed me up and ignored me. So first punk show I went to was a band called d.b.s. from Vancouver I believe. I was nervous and sitting by myself in the corner of the building.. to afraid to talk to anyone there cause I was just a weirdo outcast. This one girl walked up to me and said "man, come on get out there and dance, have some fun with us"... it just made me go... what the... nobody ever talks to me or approaches me, i was taken back by it and they all welcomed me llike I was just another cool person. That was what made me fall in love with the scene and for once made me feel accepted. I get that at shows all the time, people coming up to me and saying, come on get out there !

It was to me a case of, you can jump on stage and sing with them.. the people in the crowd are on the same level as the people on the stage and there is freedom in it. Sure, every now and then you meet that band that kinda does the opposite. But the majority of times, they are just normal guys connecting with the crowd.

That is what got me into the scene, it felt like a family, no matter who you were, if you were respectful and didnt cause sh*t or be an idiot, they welcomed you as the outcast you were and treated you like you were an equal. There was no pretentious crap, it was all very cool.

That acceptance at the d.b.s. show just made me go... screw all those other scenes, this is where I belong, where even an oddball like me can be accepted for who i am.

I have since since that turn around in recent years here though, and seen it become more a fashion contest and a herd mentality.. and that always bothers me. To see it reduced to a popularity contest to many here is a kick in the face to me to what the scene should be. It is happening more and more, it is changing. The old timers still have it, but as generations change it seems to be shifting to a more popularity contest.

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FRED HALE SR.

Yeah its for the most part a young mans game. I was never the fashion guy when it came to punk rock. I was actually just a surfer/skater who enjoyed listening to punk rock. I'd go to shows with my hang tens and vans and get my ass kicked in the pit and then show up the following week to get my ass kicked again. Its about that raw sound and the fury in the lyrics. It made me change many of my views on the world in general and made me less cynical. It means just as much now as it did then, nothing about todays scene can change that, the memories are all we have left, but theres many more to be made.

BastardofYoung

Also, the other thing that gets me is when the idiot cretins took over. Give you a little story as to what I mean.

the d.b.s. show took place here at a place called The Snell Auditiorium. Which was a little room in the basement of the local library here. It held maybe 50 people when the stage was up, but whatever.. lucky if these shows got 20-25 people on a good day.. usually. They usually didn't put on anything other than readings and presentations in the room before, but they let us use it for shows. For a few months I went to shows there, they had them every weekend, be like $5 for 6 bands. Anyways, this went on for a couple of months.

They shut it down though soon after... They were always good to us. These shows took place after the library closed, they let us in there and put their trust in us and all went well until the last show they had they left the grabbajabba open for us, the little stand where you could get coffee and snacks when the library was open. They put out coffee for us and a few snacks and some cans of coke..and said help yourself to these on us. Basically just a bunch of machines that were set up and a note that said, just turn it on and make yourself some coffee

Well, 4 big drug addicted nazi punks came to that show. They were taking kids out back and beating the crap out of them, putting them in trash cans and stealing their money.. they outpowered all of us little kids, they were older and would carry knives and had razor blades on their jackets. Just idiots. They then came in and proceeded to go to the grabbajabba, thrash it... break cases, throw around the coffee machines, stomp fruit on the ground and all this crap... we did all we could after they left, we cleaned it up and did what we could and left a note saying sorry, and explaining that this was not the fault of the kids in there and would do what we could to help the staff with whatever money would had or anything.

But of course that didnt fly and they blamed it on us all, and said... no more shows here. So a couple of boneheads ruined what was a great scene for everyone else, because they were disrespectful assh*les.

That was the only place that had all ages punk shows at the time, so all the kids got screwed over.

Those type of people are just what make people think punk is that way, and that always pissed me off.

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