The Pixies vs Nirvana

BTown · 10-26-2009, 05:55 PM

Nirvana was heavily influenced by the Pixies and Surfer Ros was one of Kurt's favorite albums, but they are totally different.

Yes, I said they are totally different. Nirvana took the loud-quite technique from the pixies (along with a bunch of other things from different bands) and put it all together and came out with Nirvana.

The Pixies aren't grunge, and the only reason I could see the pixies and nirvana getting compared is because Kurt Cobain is widely thought to have ripped off the pixies, which he admitted to.

Thus, this poll is the dumbest **** ever.

Violent & Funky · 10-26-2009, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BTown787

Thus, this poll is the dumbest **** ever.

Compared to a lot of the threads on MusicBanter it's not so bad...

~~Odyshape~~ · 10-26-2009, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BTown787

Nirvana was heavily influenced by the Pixies and Surfer Ros was one of Kurt's favorite albums, but they are totally different.

Yes, I said they are totally different. Nirvana took the loud-quite technique from the pixies (along with a bunch of other things from different bands) and put it all together and came out with Nirvana.

The Pixies aren't grunge, and the only reason I could see the pixies and nirvana getting compared is because Kurt Cobain is widely thought to have ripped off the pixies, which he admitted to.

Thus, this poll is the dumbest **** ever.

I just thought most fans were fans of both bands , I don't think its the "dumbest **** ever" but if people don't want me to keep making these threads I will stop.

loveissucide · 10-26-2009, 06:12 PM

I'd actually say Alternative/Indie is a much better forum than "punk" for this.

loveissucide · 10-26-2009, 06:23 PM

Dinosaur Jr are post-hardcore if they're anything, but a lot of the groups that were most directly influenced by them were "grunge".Proto-grunge would be a good term for their sound in that it's a template that isn't quite the same thing,much the same as New York Dolls not quite being punk.

~~Odyshape~~ · 10-26-2009, 10:25 PM

oh btw i just read about how Rolling Stone changed their 3 star review of Surfer Rosa in 1992 to a 5 star in 2004, man that it is lame.
also apparently steve albini was upset during the production of Surfer Rosa, in an interview :"A patchwork pinch loaf from a band who at their top dollar best are blandly entertaining college rock. Their willingness to be "guided" by their manager, their record company and their producers is unparalleled. Never have I seen four cows more anxious to be led around by their nose rings"

music_phantom13 · 11-10-2009, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Odyshape

oh btw i just read about how Rolling Stone changed their 3 star review of Surfer Rosa in 1992 to a 5 star in 2004, man that it is lame.
also apparently steve albini was upset during the production of Surfer Rosa, in an interview :"A patchwork pinch loaf from a band who at their top dollar best are blandly entertaining college rock. Their willingness to be "guided" by their manager, their record company and their producers is unparalleled. Never have I seen four cows more anxious to be led around by their nose rings"

This is a really disturbing trend with Rolling Stone. There's a crazy amount of albums they trashed when they first came out that they later went back and reviewed much better. They raised In the Aeroplane Over the Sea from 3 stars to 4, 3 Feet High and Rising from 3 to 5, Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain from 4 to 5, and Odelay from 4 to 5, to name but a few. I guess they think their reviews need to be reconsidered a few years after the albums come out, but to me it looks a lot more like they are realizing they gave an album that became a classic a bad review so rather than accept that they disagree they go back and change their score. Really discredits their opinion to me.

jacklovezhimself · 10-27-2009, 06:21 PM

Unfortunately, I had to go with liking them the same amount. I feel like I like a lot of Nirvana's songs by themselves a lot better, but The Pixie's can make a full album that flows and always keeps me satisfied.

~~Odyshape~~ · 10-28-2009, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by jacklovezhimself

Unfortunately, I had to go with liking them the same amount. I feel like I like a lot of Nirvana's songs by themselves a lot better, but The Pixie's can make a full album that flows and always keeps me satisfied.

That what I think to,

Aragn Ramone · 10-31-2009, 10:52 PM

Well, I must admit I don't know much of Pixies, so I choose Nirvana.

But we can't forget that the Pixies influenced Nirvana and both are very good bands.

View Poll Results: Which band is better?
Pixies are way better	67	23.93%
I prefer The pixies	62	22.14%
I like them about the Same	40	14.29%
I prefer Nirvana	56	20.00%
Nirvana is way better	55	19.64%
Voters: 280. You may not vote on this poll

10-26-2009, 05:55 PM	#1 (permalink)
BTown super cool Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 806	Nirvana was heavily influenced by the Pixies and Surfer Ros was one of Kurt's favorite albums, but they are totally different. Yes, I said they are totally different. Nirvana took the loud-quite technique from the pixies (along with a bunch of other things from different bands) and put it all together and came out with Nirvana. The Pixies aren't grunge, and the only reason I could see the pixies and nirvana getting compared is because Kurt Cobain is widely thought to have ripped off the pixies, which he admitted to. Thus, this poll is the dumbest **** ever. __________________

10-26-2009, 06:12 PM	#4 (permalink)
loveissucide Himself Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Leuven ,Belgium, via Ireland Posts: 1,325	I'd actually say Alternative/Indie is a much better forum than "punk" for this. __________________ www.last.fm/user/p-mccusker http://www.mixcloud.com/pmccusker www.valjester.wordpress.com

10-26-2009, 06:23 PM	#5 (permalink)
loveissucide Himself Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Leuven ,Belgium, via Ireland Posts: 1,325	Dinosaur Jr are post-hardcore if they're anything, but a lot of the groups that were most directly influenced by them were "grunge".Proto-grunge would be a good term for their sound in that it's a template that isn't quite the same thing,much the same as New York Dolls not quite being punk. __________________ www.last.fm/user/p-mccusker http://www.mixcloud.com/pmccusker www.valjester.wordpress.com

10-27-2009, 06:21 PM	#8 (permalink)
jacklovezhimself five years Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,248	Unfortunately, I had to go with liking them the same amount. I feel like I like a lot of Nirvana's songs by themselves a lot better, but The Pixie's can make a full album that flows and always keeps me satisfied. __________________

10-26-2009, 10:25 PM	#6 (permalink)
~~Odyshape~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 526	oh btw i just read about how Rolling Stone changed their 3 star review of Surfer Rosa in 1992 to a 5 star in 2004, man that it is lame. also apparently steve albini was upset during the production of Surfer Rosa, in an interview :"A patchwork pinch loaf from a band who at their top dollar best are blandly entertaining college rock. Their willingness to be "guided" by their manager, their record company and their producers is unparalleled. Never have I seen four cows more anxious to be led around by their nose rings"

10-31-2009, 10:52 PM	#10 (permalink)
Aragn Ramone Groupie Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Porto Alegre, Brazil Posts: 15	Well, I must admit I don't know much of Pixies, so I choose Nirvana. But we can't forget that the Pixies influenced Nirvana and both are very good bands.