The Pixies vs Nirvana

AgeOfOddz · 09-12-2011, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by GreatSvenster

...Yeah and they're both great songs so where's the complaint? I hate it when people say "Oh x sounds a lot like x so all their songs sound the same". It's a stupid argument.

I´m not really complaining as much as i´m comparing the two bands...
And you can´t call my argument stupid if you completely disregarded it. I was pointing out how much of Nirvana´s material in my opinion sound´s the same. Which i think makes them sort of a redundant act, hence why i choose The Pixies as the superior band. Oh well, cheers for people having divided opinions i suppose.

Zer0 · 09-11-2011, 01:00 PM

There are plenty of noticeable differences in style and sound between Nevermind and In Utero. Nevermind has a glossier production while In Utero is rawer-sounding and has more of a live feel to it. In Utero features more dissonant guitar tunings and deep down-tuned bass, giving the album a more abrasive sound, while the guitars on Nevermind sound more tuneful and punchier. In Utero also has a darker and more aggressive feel to it and is less pop-influenced compared to Nevermind. I can't really imagine a song like 'Serve The Servants' fitting in on Nevermind, likewise I can't imagine 'Drain You' fitting in too well on In Utero.

Necromancer · 09-11-2011, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Zer0

There are plenty of noticeable differences in style and sound between Nevermind and In Utero. Nevermind has a glossier production while In Utero is rawer-sounding and has more of a live feel to it. In Utero features more dissonant guitar tunings and deep down-tuned bass, giving the album a more abrasive sound, while the guitars on Nevermind sound more tuneful and punchier. In Utero also has a darker and more aggressive feel to it and is less pop-influenced compared to Nevermind. I can't really imagine a song like 'Serve The Servants' fitting in on Nevermind, likewise I can't imagine 'Drain You' fitting in too well on In Utero.

I agree with everything, except I'm not "too sure" about the raw & live sounding aspect of Utero. That would depend on the individual really. Its too Pop.. to sound "Live" and the "Raw" aspect goes to the album "Bleach".
In my opinion the Darker and Aggressive (Punk) feel is "dominate" in all.. of Nirvana music

Personality.

I agree both albums are different in sound and style though. "Actually", just (a little) different.

~~Odyshape~~ · 09-13-2011, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Necromancer

I agree with everything, except I'm not "too sure" about the raw & live sounding aspect of Utero. That would depend on the individual really. Its too Pop.. to sound "Live" and the "Raw" aspect goes to the album "Bleach".
In my opinion the Darker and Aggressive (Punk) feel is "dominate" in all.. of Nirvana music

Personality.

I agree both albums are different in sound and style though. "Actually", just (a little) different.

I definetly would agree with the notion that in utero is still fairly poppy. (favorite nirvana album btw)

Zer0 · 09-11-2011, 02:10 PM

Well maybe not live sounding but it does have a raw feel to it. Bleach is obviously their darkest and rawest album of course, but I was comparing Nevermind and In Utero since AgeOfOddz stated that there is no real difference between the two.

Violent & Funky · 09-12-2011, 09:55 AM

Maybe I'm just not a big enough Pixies fan, but I have a hard time remembering if one of their songs is on Surfer Rosa or Doolittle. The differences in production between those two albums isn't far off from the differences between the Nirvana albums...

BastardofYoung · 09-12-2011, 11:57 AM

Well, Dumb was written and being performed even before Nevermind was released. So it would fit in with Nevermind. First performance of the song was September 25th, 1990.

Songs from In Utero that were around before/around the time of "Nevermind"

All Apologies (1990)
http://www.livenirvana.com/songguide/all-apologies.html

Dumb (1990)
http://www.livenirvana.com/songguide/dumb.html

Pennyroyal Tea (1990)
http://www.livenirvana.com/songguide...royal-tea.html

Radio Friendly Unit Shifter (1991)
http://www.livenirvana.com/songguide...t-shifter.html

Rape Me (1991)
http://www.livenirvana.com/songguide/rape-me.html

Siddi · 09-21-2011, 09:42 AM

I like the Pixies better. Their music is more varied.

BastardofYoung · 09-25-2011, 12:49 PM

why is nirvana shitvana?

okay, i can see how some do like them, not something everybody enjoys personally, but to just call them shit is not right. They did have talent. Kurt, while he may have been a minimal guitarist in technique did have a god sense of melody, his vocals as well. He knew how to be simple but inject basic melody into his sound, he was good at composing poppy tunes that while yes, are basic and simple still suited the songs. Not every guitarist has to be a Eddie Van Halen, Jimi Hendrix or Micheal Angelo Batio... sometimes it is harder to write a simple song than it is to just shred and be technical.

Interested in hearing what reasons you have to dislike them. Interested in seeing what counters you have to my statement above.

**Janszoon** · 09-25-2011, 01:02 PM

I'm not much of a fan of Shitvana but I'd still prefer them any day of the week over Shitgarden or Shit Temple Pilots.

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09-11-2011, 01:00 PM	#2 (permalink)
Zer0 ∞ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Ireland Posts: 3,792	There are plenty of noticeable differences in style and sound between Nevermind and In Utero. Nevermind has a glossier production while In Utero is rawer-sounding and has more of a live feel to it. In Utero features more dissonant guitar tunings and deep down-tuned bass, giving the album a more abrasive sound, while the guitars on Nevermind sound more tuneful and punchier. In Utero also has a darker and more aggressive feel to it and is less pop-influenced compared to Nevermind. I can't really imagine a song like 'Serve The Servants' fitting in on Nevermind, likewise I can't imagine 'Drain You' fitting in too well on In Utero. __________________ Last FM \| RYM \| The Final Sound

09-11-2011, 02:10 PM	#5 (permalink)
Zer0 ∞ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Ireland Posts: 3,792	Well maybe not live sounding but it does have a raw feel to it. Bleach is obviously their darkest and rawest album of course, but I was comparing Nevermind and In Utero since AgeOfOddz stated that there is no real difference between the two. __________________ Last FM \| RYM \| The Final Sound

09-12-2011, 09:55 AM	#6 (permalink)
Violent & Funky FUNky Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Midland, MI Posts: 2,482	Maybe I'm just not a big enough Pixies fan, but I have a hard time remembering if one of their songs is on Surfer Rosa or Doolittle. The differences in production between those two albums isn't far off from the differences between the Nirvana albums... __________________ http://www.last.fm/user/ohio0808 sometimes I don't thrill you sometimes I think I'll kill you just don't let me fuck up will you 'cause when I need a friend it's still you

09-12-2011, 11:57 AM	#7 (permalink)
BastardofYoung Buzz Killjoy Join Date: May 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 2,692	Well, Dumb was written and being performed even before Nevermind was released. So it would fit in with Nevermind. First performance of the song was September 25th, 1990. Songs from In Utero that were around before/around the time of "Nevermind" All Apologies (1990) http://www.livenirvana.com/songguide/all-apologies.html Dumb (1990) http://www.livenirvana.com/songguide/dumb.html Pennyroyal Tea (1990) http://www.livenirvana.com/songguide...royal-tea.html Radio Friendly Unit Shifter (1991) http://www.livenirvana.com/songguide...t-shifter.html Rape Me (1991) http://www.livenirvana.com/songguide/rape-me.html __________________ last.fm ‎"I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people." - Jack Handey. Last edited by BastardofYoung; 09-12-2011 at 12:12 PM.

09-21-2011, 09:42 AM	#8 (permalink)
Siddi Groupie Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Germany Posts: 19	I like the Pixies better. Their music is more varied.

09-25-2011, 12:49 PM	#9 (permalink)
BastardofYoung Buzz Killjoy Join Date: May 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 2,692	why is nirvana shitvana? okay, i can see how some do like them, not something everybody enjoys personally, but to just call them shit is not right. They did have talent. Kurt, while he may have been a minimal guitarist in technique did have a god sense of melody, his vocals as well. He knew how to be simple but inject basic melody into his sound, he was good at composing poppy tunes that while yes, are basic and simple still suited the songs. Not every guitarist has to be a Eddie Van Halen, Jimi Hendrix or Micheal Angelo Batio... sometimes it is harder to write a simple song than it is to just shred and be technical. Interested in hearing what reasons you have to dislike them. Interested in seeing what counters you have to my statement above. __________________ last.fm ‎"I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people." - Jack Handey.

09-25-2011, 01:02 PM	#10 (permalink)
Janszoon Mate, Spawn & Die Join Date: May 2007 Location: The Rapping Community Posts: 24,593	I'm not much of a fan of Shitvana but I'd still prefer them any day of the week over Shitgarden or Shit Temple Pilots. __________________ A Night in the Life of the Invisible Man Time & Place 25 Albums You Should Hear Before the Moon Crashes into the Earth and We All Die last.fm

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