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Fintroll 10-27-2009 07:25 PM

I hate that album, its so bland. Fresh Fruit was cool when I was a kid but I grew out of it.

ElephantSack 11-02-2009 02:27 PM

I dig "Give me Convenience..." even if it is just pretty much a collection. And "Pull My Strings" is an excellent song, especially if you know the story behind it.

Other than that, "Fresh Fruit.." and "Plastic Surgery Disasters" are my favorites. "In God We Trust, Inc." is pretty sloppy for the most part, but "We've Got an Even Bigger Problem Now" is definitely one of their most powerful songs.

I never got into "Frankenchrist" or "Bedtime For Democracy". They just didn't really have the same sound to me. They sounded a little tired.

My favorite DK song would probably have to be "Moon Over Marin".

screemin187 11-02-2009 03:00 PM

At the time it came out my wife, then girlfiend loved it. In fact they had a huge following here in Northern Ireland, really huge

I was one of the few though who rated Bedtime for Democracy as one of their best, everyone still disagrees but it takes me back to that era every time i hear it

The shirts, songs and titles were super cool in the eighties, I will always remember reagan and thatcher for the slating they got from punk bands and not their politics lol

tgpo 11-07-2009 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by screemin187 (Post 761695)
I was one of the few though who rated Bedtime for Democracy as one of their best, everyone still disagrees but it takes me back to that era every time i hear it

Thank you! I knew I couldn't be the only one to put their last album as their best.

Ulysses 11-07-2009 07:47 AM

I can't speak for anyone else but I rate the first half of 'Give Me Convenience...' as much as any of the studio albums. The early b-sides were fantastic songs and, as a kid, I played those songs as often as I did the a-sides and I honestly think the likes of 'Police Truck', 'Insight', 'Too Drunk...' et al are as good as anything on the albums.

Besides, if you don't/didn't own those songs as 7 inch singles then where are people meant to hear them? Far too good a set of songs to just waste by not allowing them to be accessed by an audience, surely?

For the record, I've never even seen a Guitar Hero!

Molecules 11-07-2009 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by tgpo (Post 758547)
I'm one album away from owning their studio discography, and this album is my least favorite. Sure, Pull My Strings is an amazing song, but as an album it's Dead Kennedys' worst. I guess I'm just not into people remaking their own songs into lounge hits.

oh come on, worse than 'Bedtime for Democracy' (a Jello Biafra spoken word album which just happens to have music playing in the background)!?
As Sam states, I have found 'Give Me Convenience' tends to come after the first two albums in peoples' estimations.

...and if you don't like the lounge band thing avoid one of their finest hours: 'we've got a bigger problem now' from In God We Trust Inc.

Ulysses 11-07-2009 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by tgpo (Post 758547)
I guess I'm just not into people remaking their own songs into lounge hits.

I suppose satire is lost on you generally then? Do you baulk every time you see the Sounds of Sunshine photo on the back of 'Fresh Fruit...'? It's not that different. How about whenever you see (re)appropriated images used in Winston Smith's collages?

Molecules 11-07-2009 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Ulysses (Post 764065)
I suppose satire is lost on you generally then? Do you baulk every time you see the Sounds of Sunshine photo on the back of 'Fresh Fruit...'? It's not that different. How about whenever you see (re)appropriated images used in Winston Smith's collages?

i think he/she is referring to the slightly slower-tempo version/outtake of California Uber Alles on 'convenience'... dunno where the lounge thing came from

Ulysses 11-07-2009 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Molecules (Post 764066)
i think he/she is referring to the slightly slower-tempo version/outtake of California Uber Alles on 'convenience'... dunno where the lounge thing came from

Wasn't that the 7" version? If memory serves, that came first and the album came later. If tgpo is talking about 'Give Me Convenience or...'s' version of 'California Uber Alles' then "remaking their own songs into lounge hits" doesn't make any sense, no matter what the "lounge" is referring to.

I honestly took the lounge comment to refer to 'We've Got a Bigger Problem Now'.

Molecules 11-07-2009 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Ulysses (Post 764069)
Wasn't that the 7" version? If memory serves, that came first and the album came later. If tgpo is talking about 'Give Me Convenience or...'s' version of 'California Uber Alles' then "remaking their own songs into lounge hits" doesn't make any sense, no matter what the "lounge" is referring to.

I honestly took the lounge comment to refer to 'We've Got a Bigger Problem Now'.

i did too initially, but that's on 'In God...', at least the one I have is. And like you said, it's f*cking satire FFS

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Originally Posted by Fintroll (Post 759279)
Fresh Fruit was cool when I was a kid but I grew out of it.

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