Yahoo: Is Punk Dead?

DJ Phoenix · 10-05-2009, 07:04 AM

Looks like someone else agrees that alot of the ****ty bands mentioned below have "killed" punk:

Hot Topic Punks in a Fake Punk World
Posted Tue Sep 29, 2009 6:52pm PDT by Shawn Amos in GetBack
Punk is dead. Actually, it died a long time ago once the Sex Pistols imploded and The Clash's Joe Strummer had the temerity to kick Mick Jones out of the band and then release the career-killing record "Cut the Crap."
No, scratch that. Punk died when the first Hot Topic store opened in 1988.
What started as a way to capitalize on the early MTV craze has become pre-fabricated shorthand for something that is supposed to resemble punk in some sanitized, VMA world. Now you can now have that punk rock feeling without ever leaving the safety of the shopping mall. It's the Hot Topic-ing of America.
Punk was born on the street but is now bred in major label board rooms with clothing manufacturer tie-ins. Here's a reminder of pre-Hot Topic punk when the safety pins came from a dirty rehearsal room instead of an online catalogue.

GALLERY: The Sex Pistols: Original Hot Topic Band?

There's something wrong about a publicly traded company (over $741M in revenue in 2006) selling "Blood Is the New Pink" wristbands. Or maybe it's right. Maybe it's just as punk as Johnny Rotten schilling butter on a British commercial. Maybe Hot Topic just figured out what other '70s punks were too dumb to realize: it's better to be the man than fight him.
And now…the Hot Topic Top 5
GREEN DAY
They began as the shining stars of 924 Gilman Street (a Berkeley, CA punk club dedicated to independent punk music) and wound up as poster boys for major label sellouts. Certainly, any band who's sold over 20 million albums and won three Grammys is having the last laugh. Still, they're not doing the punk legacy any favors.

AVRIL LAVIGNE
The Canadian "pop punk" singer claims the following as her punk bona fide: working to establish equal rights for skateboarders and marrying fellow Hot Topic punker Deryck Whibley (Sum 41). Two words that should ever go together are "pop" and "punk." Her and Whibley split in September, which can only help their cred. Divorce is very punk.

BLINK-182
Tattoos do not the punk make.

GOOD CHARLOTTE
If it weren't for the Madden twins' dating Nicole Richie and Paris Hilton, I'd be convinced. Any true punk wouldn't be within 10 miles of those two chicks.

SIMPLE PLAN
What is it with French Canadians and pop punk? Another Hot Topic band who committed yet another cardinal punk sin. Band members Pierre Bouvier and Chuck Comeau started brainstorming about forming a band while attending a Sugar Ray show. 'Nuff said.

tgpo · 10-05-2009, 07:31 AM

Punk was dead long before these bands hit the scene.

~~The Unfan~~ · 10-05-2009, 09:46 AM

Punk isn't dead, you're just not looking.

~~Odyshape~~ · 10-05-2009, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by tgpo

Punk was dead long before these bands hit the scene.

This is a little off topic but Daniel Clowes is great (your ghost world avatar)

adidasss · 10-05-2009, 09:55 AM

Shit article.

asshat · 10-06-2009, 12:58 AM

Why not look for punk bands in your area rather than lament ones that were never legit anyway?...I have a feeling if this was the 80's, when all that good punk rock was going down, you'd be lamenting that "rock is dead" and you should turn over and die.

BTown · 10-06-2009, 03:17 PM

Dumbest **** I ever read.

Just because nowadays garbage like All Time Low and other bands are considered punk are popular doesn't mean punks dead. I could name at least 30 bands that came out after 1988 that are worthy of being called Punlk.

I agree with some things said about Hot Topic what with the safety pins and such.
Punks were never big on spending lots of money on there appearance. Nowadays I always see these *******s wearing theese peices of ****:

They're like 60 bucks too, what the hell are they thinking?
I have to admit I have gone into Hot Topic once or twice and gotten a t shirt or two because they are pretty cheap there and have some cool looking exclusive shirts.
Still I perfer ordering online because not as many people have the shirts and I get to choose who gets the money, weather there be a middle man or it goes straight to the band.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 10-06-2009, 04:00 PM

Anyone who bitches about a 33 year old genre of music being corporate DESERVES those bands.

And when was the last time anyone gave a flying fuck about Good Charlotte. That 'article' is about the first time i've seen their name in print in about 3 years.

LoathsomePete · 10-06-2009, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

Anyone who bitches about a 33 year old genre of music being corporate DESERVES those bands.

And when was the last time anyone gave a flying fuck about Good Charlotte. That 'article' is about the first time i've seen their name in print in about 3 years.

That's probably when it was written, took him that long to find an editor stupid enough to post it. Seriously that article makes the ones on Ultimate-Guitar seem like they're written by Hemmingway. Not only that but his thesis is something that's been so picked apart by people and debated so much that it's just bones now. He brings up absolutely nothing new or provocative.

mr dave · 10-06-2009, 04:13 PM

complaining about the state of 'punk' music then whining about good charlotte and simple plan is the equivalent to crapping your pants on the bus to annoy the rest of the people with the smell.

10-05-2009, 07:04 AM	#1 (permalink)
DJ Phoenix Music Addict Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 202	Yahoo: Is Punk Dead? Looks like someone else agrees that alot of the ****ty bands mentioned below have "killed" punk: Hot Topic Punks in a Fake Punk World Posted Tue Sep 29, 2009 6:52pm PDT by Shawn Amos in GetBack Punk is dead. Actually, it died a long time ago once the Sex Pistols imploded and The Clash's Joe Strummer had the temerity to kick Mick Jones out of the band and then release the career-killing record "Cut the Crap." No, scratch that. Punk died when the first Hot Topic store opened in 1988. What started as a way to capitalize on the early MTV craze has become pre-fabricated shorthand for something that is supposed to resemble punk in some sanitized, VMA world. Now you can now have that punk rock feeling without ever leaving the safety of the shopping mall. It's the Hot Topic-ing of America. Punk was born on the street but is now bred in major label board rooms with clothing manufacturer tie-ins. Here's a reminder of pre-Hot Topic punk when the safety pins came from a dirty rehearsal room instead of an online catalogue. GALLERY: The Sex Pistols: Original Hot Topic Band? There's something wrong about a publicly traded company (over $741M in revenue in 2006) selling "Blood Is the New Pink" wristbands. Or maybe it's right. Maybe it's just as punk as Johnny Rotten schilling butter on a British commercial. Maybe Hot Topic just figured out what other '70s punks were too dumb to realize: it's better to be the man than fight him. And now…the Hot Topic Top 5 GREEN DAY They began as the shining stars of 924 Gilman Street (a Berkeley, CA punk club dedicated to independent punk music) and wound up as poster boys for major label sellouts. Certainly, any band who's sold over 20 million albums and won three Grammys is having the last laugh. Still, they're not doing the punk legacy any favors. AVRIL LAVIGNE The Canadian "pop punk" singer claims the following as her punk bona fide: working to establish equal rights for skateboarders and marrying fellow Hot Topic punker Deryck Whibley (Sum 41). Two words that should ever go together are "pop" and "punk." Her and Whibley split in September, which can only help their cred. Divorce is very punk. BLINK-182 Tattoos do not the punk make. GOOD CHARLOTTE If it weren't for the Madden twins' dating Nicole Richie and Paris Hilton, I'd be convinced. Any true punk wouldn't be within 10 miles of those two chicks. SIMPLE PLAN What is it with French Canadians and pop punk? Another Hot Topic band who committed yet another cardinal punk sin. Band members Pierre Bouvier and Chuck Comeau started brainstorming about forming a band while attending a Sugar Ray show. 'Nuff said. __________________ http://www.buffalobeast.com/134/50mo...2008-full.html

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BTown super cool Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 806	Dumbest ** I ever read. Just because nowadays garbage like All Time Low and other bands are considered punk are popular doesn't mean punks dead. I could name at least 30 bands that came out after 1988 that are worthy of being called Punlk. I agree with some things said about Hot Topic what with the safety pins and such. Punks were never big on spending lots of money on there appearance. Nowadays I always see these ***s wearing theese peices of **: They're like 60 bucks too, what the hell are they thinking? I have to admit I have gone into Hot Topic once or twice and gotten a t shirt or two because they are pretty cheap there and have some cool looking exclusive shirts. Still I perfer ordering online because not as many people have the shirts and I get to choose who gets the money, weather there be a middle man or it goes straight to the band. __________________

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~~The Unfan~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Methville Posts: 2,116	Punk isn't dead, you're just not looking.

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Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	Anyone who bitches about a 33 year old genre of music being corporate DESERVES those bands. And when was the last time anyone gave a flying fuck about Good Charlotte. That 'article' is about the first time i've seen their name in print in about 3 years. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.