I agree & I also thought the Sic F**ks with Tish & Snookie were fun as well.
...Besides I'm a huge fan of the afore mentioned Johnny Thunders (although I only got to see him once)

All of you are from the states personally I can't cross the border but if I had to say best city for punk rock in my opinion and ive hitchhiked all over canada brother itd be my hometown Edmonton AB everytime I get drunk at some of those venues the bands are always rockin and someone always leaves with a memorable experience I think NYC and LA are played out and too well known some new talent should be discovered because the united states seems to come out with new bands with the same*** sounds and its boringman gotta say other than the older **** i've heard i'm uninterested in the united states' punk scene man

Punctuation was invented for a reason. Just sayin'.

or was it

Ethan's right. It was created to stop us from forming super sentences that could blow the minds of the establishment.

nothing could be more punk than not using punctuation i mean seriously this one time i was at this show and like i was moshing but i was wearing a leather jacket because it was the winter time and i got so over heated in the pit that i thought i was going to to pass out maybe or throw up of something and when i ran for the bathroom the whole crowd just parted like the red sea pretty amazing if you think about it people are never like that anyway i spent most of the show sitting on the floor after that oh and it wasnt actually a punk show it was mr bungle but melt banana opened and theyre kinda punk it still was a really good show what i mean that was the disco volante tour i always wished i could have seen them touring for california because i think thats their best best album but oh well what can you do know what i mean it was awesome fuck the man smash the system

thats so ****ing punk i literally just had to smash the state in my own bedroom

Boston imo.

La.

*Heart swells with hometown pride.*

The whole LA, Campbell, Willmington, Fullerton, Orange, scene is the best and always will be live shows every night best place to couch surf meet the best people and dicuss everything under the sun SOCAL HANDS DOWN!!!!!!

I'll have to go with London. I don't think there would've been punk if it weren't for the bands in London, such as The Sex Pistols and The Clash. New York City has to be second because of the bands that came from there like The Ramones and New York Dolls.

philly , thats al I have to say

You've got it backwards. There would be no Clash or Sex Pistols had it not been for the Ramones or the New York Dolls

QFT. Also you can add The Stooges, MC5, and Richard Hell as well.

Has anybody mentioned Detroit? Certainly the best City for protorock with MC5, The Stooges and Death all hailing from that neck of the woods. If we're being genre Nazis then London. Not for patriotic reasons, it just produced the greatest number of good punk bands. I do love the LA scene though.

True, but I think the London bands defined punk and the whole culture that went along with it. The New York bands were sort of a starting point.

Patti Smith and The Ramones and then the whole No Wave scene is enough for me to say NYC. Obviously, great cases can be made for London. And Detroit probably has the earliest roots with The Motor City Five and Iggy.

New York.

It started things off with the Velvet Underground, and then you have people like Patti Smith, Television, Suicide, and the Talking Heads coming after them. Of course, then you have the No Wave scene (which is experiment/punk) that includes The Contortions, DNA, Teenage Jesus and the Jerks, Glenn Branca, and eventually the almighty Sonic Youth.

So... yea, New York. Hands down. '

(London has Wire and the Clash - that's all I really care about).


Second choice. I love all three of those bands - especially MC5.

Toronto is a pretty underrated punk city, imo. Lots of solid stuff has come out of there in the last decade or two.

Where are Death Sentence from in Canada?

They're from BC, according to their Myspace page. I don't listen to that band. :P

That's like the only Canadian punk band I can think of other than NoMeansNo and Dayglo Abortions. What is there from Toronto?

Fucked Up, The Flatliners, Cursed, Career Suicide, Cancer Bats, Brutal Knights, others I'm forgetting, but it's not even just about the bands. Toronto as a city has a really great vibe to it and a healthy amount of venues such as Sneaky Dee's, Bovine Sex Club, the Horseshoe Tavern, Lee's Palace, The Opera House, etc.

You forgot the wonderful Negative Approach. Anyways, by Death are you referring to the metal band, or...? Because the metal band's key member (Schuldiner) moved to California, and that's where the band made it's splash.

He's probably referring to the protopunk band that didn't manage to release their debut album, Death... for the Whole World to See, until 2009.

http://stereogum.com/img/thumbnails/...-album_art.jpg

That's a great band. Also Necros (another great band) are from Detroit I think.

Saw Negative Approach over the summer around here. Was a great show. Great band that was pretty damn influential on powerviolence/fastcore/thrashcore.

BBC News - How France gave punk rock its meaning

Admittedly something I do not know a huge amount about but interesting reading.

Necros and Neg Approach were two of the very first bands on Touch & Go, I think. I think I once read that it was one of the guys in the Necros who started the label in the first place. Whatever's true, these two bands are definitely two of the better early 80s hardcore acts, especially Negative Approach.

The Meatmen were around too, anyone heard them? Funny band.

D.O.A is the best Canadian punk band. Dayglo is awesome however

My favorite punk city is Leigh Valley, Pennsylvania. Home to Street Smart Cyclist, Algernon Cadwallader, and the whole gang!