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i downloaded some of their stuff last night and was not dissapointed..so much better than black flag

i think that depends on what you count as punk. i for one enjoy a lot of pop punk, i absolutely can't stand the "real" punk ...

I used to be the same way, but theres lots or 'real' punk out there that isn't just ripping off the sex pistols and the clash:

Wire
The Jam
The Heartbreakers
Iggy Pop
X
The Neighborhoods
The Dogmatics
The Stranglers
The Fall
The Lyres
Mission of Burma
Richard Hell
Television

and sooo much more worth checking out. I bought the Rhino 70's punk boxset and it really changed the way I think of punk and music in general. Awesome username, by the way.

Except for half those bands ARE ripping off the sex pistols and the clash.

How so?

Wire:
Art punk, their first album sets the stage for hardcore, in the sense that the songs are quick and to the point, their other two are post-punk classics, much different from the Pistols & Clash.

The Jam:

The definitive british punk band, with more pop-rock/pub-rock sensebilities than The Pistols or Clash.

The Heartbreakers:

Basically a rock and roll band not too far in sound from the NY dolls.


Iggy Pop:

David Bowie wrote the music for his 'lust for life' album, enough said.

X:

With more rockabilly guitar and unique boy/girl vocals that sound very akin to the Pixies, they sound little like those two bands.

The Neighborhoods:

Okay, this is more of a pop-punk band, so I suppose they don't count, but in any case, they sound nothing like The Clash or Pistols.

The Dogmatics:

Much more rock and roll than the Clash, and more alternative than punk in some songs. They also touch upon more rockabilly and roots rock than Sex Pistols or Clash sound.

The Stranglers:

They are heavy on synths. Enough said.

The Fall:

Although his vocals are somewhat derived from Johnny Rotten, they nonetheless have their own spin, as Mark E. Smith's speak-singing is one of the most recognizeable in music, nevermind punk.

The Lyres:

Throwback 60's rock with more of the speed and attitude of punk.

Mission of Burma:

Art-punk that is very distant in sound from both the Clash and Pistols.

Richard Hell:

He was around before the Pistols and Clash, and in fact, was a huge influence on them as one of the original CBGB bands.

Television:

Intense guitars, one of the best punk/post-punk bands, they sound nothing like the Pistols or Clash, and again, were an original CBGB band.


Now if you had said that half of these bands were inspired by The Sex Pistols and Clash, or that half of them were indebted to them, I would agree.

I'm interested. Got an album?

Their albums pale compared to their early singles, as they turned more into rock and roll than pop-punk.

However, their late seventies single "Prettiest Girl" with terrific B-Side "No Place Like Home", made when they were still teenagers is fantastic, and a great starting point. Like most punk bands I enjoy, they're extremely hit or miss, and the bulk of their output that I own is on compilations.

i rlly liek punk, i listen to fallout boy, patd, avril lavigne her old stuff is wayy punk and simple plan:)

Those are not punk bands.
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