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Well I'm not a Marley fan so they're both bad but at least Marley didn't inspire hate and crime.
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Yeah you're right... you can't really compare when Marley was trying to send out messages of peace and justice while all that ganster rap is just hateful and angry and glamorizing crime.
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Punk is a classification of all music that fights for the minority...which is slowly become popular. Where the music comes from...doesn't matter. It's pointing out the obvious...evolution. A few current punk bands I listen too are Crass/NOFX/Op IVY.
Before you jump the gun, and get on my case about these bands not being punk, realize, that maybe these are the first 3 that came to mind. |
For their sound, there's a lot better out there than NOFX.
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Operation Ivy aren't current, or good for that matter.
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i dont know, it just pisses me off when i go downtown everyday on my way to work in atlanta, and people stay in packs (they are never by themselves) on the sidewalk (they happen to be black) and stare at you if you arent black and they play loud music and stand there all day.. and im a paramedic so i pass by them 24/7 on my 24-48 hours shifts. and they never move.
thats their definition of "gangster", "hard to live on the streets", "the streets are rough", most all of gangster rap is centerd around that main idea. or atleast the wanna be's which is 95% of them. |
Ummmm.....
What? |
where did rap come from?
and i think punk has a specific message from the minority, like what props said. If you dont like it thats fine. but what i say is what the music is about doesnt matter, you should listen to how it sounds first, then look into what its all about |
Agreed. I could care less what the music's about as long as it is good. Meaning just gives it bonus points.
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exactly my point.
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If you look at the two examples given, "Fuck the Police" and "I Shot the Sheriff", is there anything specifically in NWA's lyrics that imply that they are trying to get people to kill cops anymore than Bob Marley is? If you simply read the lyrics to the two songs, they both have the same message, it's like Marley said, justice. The oppressed rising up and overtaking the oppressors (sp?). And why should killing a cop be any more offensive than killing anyone else? That's ridiculous. |
This is a pointless morality arguement. People have different sets of morals, so people will think different things, and no matter how much you argue with them it won't change.
I personally see nothing wrong with singing about murder. Singing is about passion, so if your passionate about murder, ****ing sing about it! |
I concur. All I'm saying is that if someone's going to go out of their way to say gangster rap is offensive because they don't like it or think it's stupid or whatever, then they can look back at all the music they like, realize what it all means and delete the dozens of songs they've never realized had the same message, albeit in more vague terms.
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I am in no way offended by such music, I just find it stupid, immature, and hate the fact that we're pushing such violence on to our children and our society. I'm not sure what the difference is between what Marley did and what Rap does but one inspires violence and the other, not so much. I don't think all rap is bad, I just think people shouldn't freak out when other people say they dislike NWA (and others) for their message. I'm gonna go make a thread about this though and leave the punk thread in peace. |
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This stuff is not created in a vacuum. Rap, like punk, reggae and all rebel music, is an expression of pent-up outrage. |
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Punk is an attitude, not a genre.
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Punk is definatley a genre.
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I've deleted all your posts bar this. Post properly or fuck off. |
I would give Punk a minimum of **** myself. Three stars is insulting.
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i listen to hardcore punk if that counts...
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i give it a half
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Punk = Great....
nuff said |
^I agree.
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You are consistently a crappy poster.
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That makes me very sad :(
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^He probably meant me :(
I left a 2 word post. |
ah who needs him?
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It just seems like every post of sonace's I read has about no worth while content but, whatevers. I also have female genitalia. Fun stuff.
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But you have heard of me.
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I don't mind punk in small doses. Too much of it hurts my head.
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i dunno.
post punk is good, in my eyes in my eyes. |
Damn man, this is still here? Is the topic still about whether Punk sucks or not? Hell, what was the topic in the first place?
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im surprised this hasnt been closed lol
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im surprised you still post lol
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